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FTDI Removes Driver From Windows Update That Bricked Cloned Chips

sl149q Re:Sorry They're Changing (491 comments)

No, because FTDI is now providing me with drivers that will detect if I get a batch of product manufactured with counterfeit chips.

So I can immediately return the product to where I had it manufactured and have them review their supply chain issues.

Any boards that work I can happily sell because I know that the FTDI chip and driver will provide a reliable solution.

8 hours ago
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FTDI Removes Driver From Windows Update That Bricked Cloned Chips

sl149q Re:Alternatives? Same problem.. (491 comments)

Huh?

Counterfeit goods are routinely seized and destroyed. Google counterfeit products seized.

You can be charged with fraud, possession of property obtained by crime, possession for the purpose of trafficking in stolen goods. Etc.

8 hours ago
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FTDI Removes Driver From Windows Update That Bricked Cloned Chips

sl149q Re:Alternatives? Same problem.. (491 comments)

Even if you want to dispute whether FTDI has ownership of their Vendor ID.

If you want to create your own driver and get it into Windows Update that requires that you also pass the USB Logo tests and that will require that you follow the rules from USB.org with respect to their allocation of Vendor ID's.

The only reason to use somebody else's vendor id without their permission is to allow you to illegally access their drivers (discounting the small possibility that you are developing a product for exclusive use with linux.)

8 hours ago
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FTDI Removes Driver From Windows Update That Bricked Cloned Chips

sl149q Re:FTDI doesn't "own" the PID:VID (491 comments)

Nope. USB.org assigns (sells) Vendor ID's.

Assignment of Product ID's is 100% under the control of the vendor who owns the Vendor ID.

8 hours ago
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FTDI Removes Driver From Windows Update That Bricked Cloned Chips

sl149q Re:Computer Missues Act 1990 (491 comments)

And in what magical world do you expect somebody else to provide a driver for your device.

The manufacturer of YOUR device did not and does not provide a driver and you are complaining that FTDI is to blame?

Even if (sounds like when as they are going to release another update) a new FTDI driver arrives that simply doesn't work, how will that help the vast majority of end users whose devices will no longer work (except for the very small number that have Linux systems...)

So you are right. If it doesn't work it is BROKEN.

And that is NOT FTDI's problem.

8 hours ago
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FTDI Removes Driver From Windows Update That Bricked Cloned Chips

sl149q Re:Computer Missues Act 1990 (491 comments)

It is NOT legal to use a vid/pid for your device and plug it into Windows expecting to use somebody else's driver that you have no license for.

You are creating a device that pretends to be something that allows you to be liable for theft of services. At least if you bought it the manufacturer would be the one on the hook.

8 hours ago
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FTDI Removes Driver From Windows Update That Bricked Cloned Chips

sl149q Re:Computer Missues Act 1990 (491 comments)

The pid is subsidiary to the vid.

Just like Slashdot owns slashdot.org and you don't get to create and use tlambert.slasdot.org.

The vid (vendor id) defines a space of 65535 possible pid's (product ids.)

There is some conjecture as well that using another vendors id may be illegal under DMCA.

Google usb vendor id dmca.

8 hours ago
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FTDI Removes Driver From Windows Update That Bricked Cloned Chips

sl149q Re:Computer Missues Act 1990 (491 comments)

No it is the act of identifying criminal chips and disabling them.

8 hours ago
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FTDI Removes Driver From Windows Update That Bricked Cloned Chips

sl149q Re:Computer Missues Act 1990 (491 comments)

No there are os's out there that can be used to reprogram the device.

8 hours ago
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FTDI Removes Driver From Windows Update That Bricked Cloned Chips

sl149q Re:not the fault of the driver if the driver (491 comments)

It doesn't let the valuable smoke out. The device still works.

It is just not useful for USB communications until someone re-re-programs it to a vid/pid for another (non FTDI) driver.

Just because (currently) doesn't make it wrong. What was wrong was people trying to use unlicensed software illegally.

8 hours ago
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FTDI Removes Driver From Windows Update That Bricked Cloned Chips

sl149q Re:Computer Missues Act 1990 (491 comments)

FTDI should just allocate a PID under their VID for the counterfeit chips.

Then reprogram counterfeit chips to that PID. The device would then still work anywhere with another driver that supported THAT vid/pid (e.g. linux.)

I just wouldn't work with the stolen vid/pid to access unlicensed software.

9 hours ago
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FTDI Removes Driver From Windows Update That Bricked Cloned Chips

sl149q Re:Computer Missues Act 1990 (491 comments)

The problem is that there is no way for the driver to "post a message".

What you get is a device that doesn't work. If you use Device manager you'll find out that the device is using the XYZ driver from FTDI and that there is a "problem". Possibly with a cryptic windows error code.

9 hours ago
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How Sony, Intel, and Unix Made Apple's Mac a PC Competitor

sl149q Re:OS-X cost $499 more than Linux (279 comments)

I thought that too until I started adding up the optional stuff I had to add in to make it equivalent to to a Mac Mini. The Mac Mini (like Apple laptops) makes a great Windows system.

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How Sony, Intel, and Unix Made Apple's Mac a PC Competitor

sl149q Re:It helps to actually use the thing. (279 comments)

And even if you (like me) simply run Windows on it, being able to buy it at the local Apple store or be able to get it fixed at the local Apple store, by a company I trust to fix things is a win.

None of the other suppliers of Windows laptops have a local store where I can do that.

yesterday
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How Sony, Intel, and Unix Made Apple's Mac a PC Competitor

sl149q Re:It helps to actually use the thing. (279 comments)

Huh... a high end Windows Laptop will set you back the same or more than an equivalent Mac laptop.

I looked around for better part of a year for a good Windows laptop to replace my ageing Acer Timeline. Finally just bought a MacBook Pro and installed Windows 8.1 on it.

IMHO Apple makes some of the best Windows laptops in the world.

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FTDI Reportedly Bricking Devices Using Competitors' Chips.

sl149q Re:This is just wrong. (687 comments)

Until they require the use of FTDI's software.

At that point no, they do not have any rights at all.

If manufacturers want to save a few bucks on a non-FTDI chip they should then hire someone to produce a driver that will work with that chip.

2 days ago
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FTDI Reportedly Bricking Devices Using Competitors' Chips.

sl149q Re:"Reasonable" my ass (687 comments)

Even if the chips where manufactured from the same dies and design in the same factory, if they are not being delivered to FTDI and sold by FTDI they are fake.

Like it or lump it, FTDI owns their design and their software. And the license to use their driver goes with an actual piece of hardware that they sell.

2 days ago
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FTDI Reportedly Bricking Devices Using Competitors' Chips.

sl149q Re:They are playing with fire (687 comments)

Damage is a big word.

They are modifying an eeprom value such that the device will no longer attempt illegally use their driver.

Since eeprom's are designed to be written, multiple times, you cannot claim that is damage.

And it is unlikely that the actual function of the device is impaired. Just its ability to communicate with Windows.

2 days ago
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FTDI Reportedly Bricking Devices Using Competitors' Chips.

sl149q Re:Why is FTDI the villan? (687 comments)

No, because then the end-user looks in Device Manager and sees that the driver, which is owned by FTDI, is experiencing a problem with their device. So they contact FTDI for support.

So not only did FTDI NOT make any money selling a chip for the device, now they would be on the hook to field support calls because the device does not "work" with their driver.

2 days ago

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Google Government Request App

sl149q sl149q writes  |  more than 4 years ago

sl149q (1537343) writes "While Google may or may not be the living up to their do no evil mantra it appears that they are trying to. This new Google App: http://www.google.com/governmentrequests/ is their attempt to show how many requests they have received from governments around the world. These can be requests to censor or requests about users or users data. This is a welcome response compared to other ISP's and Telecoms that have routinely denied or ignored requests for any information of this type. See their announcement here: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/04/greater-transparency-around-government.html for some background."
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WSJ: Time for a Climate Change Plan B

sl149q sl149q writes  |  more than 4 years ago

sl149q (1537343) writes "Whether you believe in Climate Change or Climategate the problem is that no one in the first or third world is really willing to actually pay enough to change things fast enough to make much difference. The bigger question is whether it is better to spend money to mitigate one problem (CO2) or solve other problems.

This from an article by Nigel Lawson in the WSJ article (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704107604574607793378860698.html) : "The reasons for the complete and utter failure of Copenhagen are both fundamental and irresolvable. The first is that the economic cost of decarbonizing the world's economies is massive, and of at least the same order of magnitude as any benefits it may conceivably bring in terms of a cooler world in the next century."

And: "The reason we use carbon-based energy is not the political power of the oil lobby or the coal industry. It is because it is far and away the cheapest source of energy at the present time and is likely to remain so, not forever, but for the foreseeable future."

And if we do need a conspiracy theory it is helpful to remember that 27 out of 50 of the worlds largest oil companies are state owned or controlled (http://www.energyintel.com/DocumentDetail.asp?document_id=245527)."

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