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Imagining the Future History of Climate Change

tbannist Re:medieval (354 comments)

It's just not worth crippling economies for decades, perhaps centuries, to try to affect the problem.

British Columbia (one of 10 Canadian provinces) implemented a carbon tax 6 years ago, their provincial economy has consistenly out-performed most (if not all) of the rest of the provinces despite the conservative government focusing most of it's economic efforts on boosting Alberta's oil export-based economy.

The people who claim mitigating climate change would cripple the economy and bankrupt the world, are the true alarmists and they've been proven wrong at every turn. They claimed we would be bankrupted by anti-acid rain measures, by anti-ozone hole measures, by responsible forestry, by preventing companies from dumping toxic waste into water supplies and everything else that could possibly infringe on their profit margin. Why do you believe them without questions?

47 minutes ago
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The Inevitable Death of the Internet Troll

tbannist Re: Semantics (570 comments)

let me start wearing v neck pants to work so my balls can get some fresh air.

It's called a kilt...

about a week ago
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The Inevitable Death of the Internet Troll

tbannist Re:Semantics (570 comments)

As I remember one of the guys lost his job, the other was reprimanded but not fired, and the complainer also lost her job.

There's a lesson there, I think.

about a week ago
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Shooting At Canadian Parliament

tbannist Re:Dear Canada.... (525 comments)

Why wouldn't it work in practice? It would be easy enough to shut down all mosques, ban the Koran, ban Muslim symbols, etc. It would be easy enough to hamper travel to Muslim countries, and in particular ban the Hajj.

Because laws like that so very successful in wiping out Judaism and Christianity, that only know of them through ancient historical texts, right?

Not true. It's okay to ban organizations in a democracy, which is why the Nazis have been banned in Germany for some time. The US made membership of the KKK illegal (note: membership, not engaging in crimes).

First, the Nazis are banned in Germany because it was a political movement that usurped the Nazis murdered 11 million people (and killed another 6 million through warfare), they assassinated their political opponents and allies they didn't trust. You could say that Germany considers it a criminal organization, but that would be an understatement.

Secondly, it was not illegal to be a member of the Klu Klux Klan in July. Although several Florida police officers were fired for being members.

Although the KKK is considered a hate group by the U.S. government, it is not illegal to be a member of the group, and most police departments do not screen for such membership

If something has changed since then, I have not hear anything about it.

France (a Western democracy) has gone down that path long ago, where they started placing restrictions on *display* of religion.

As far as I understand that restriction was on "display" of religious symbols and icons in public schools by teachers (and other staff) as part of their separation of church and state laws. If there is a broader law that you wish to cite, you may need to provide a link to the law.

about a week ago
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Shooting At Canadian Parliament

tbannist Re: Why (525 comments)

That's not what the police said when it was being debated. I suspect they might have some authority on the subject of what is useful in criminal investigations.

Do you have any evidence to support your assertions?

about a week ago
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Court Rules Parents May Be Liable For What Their Kids Post On Facebook

tbannist Re:Why not? When you have kids.. (323 comments)

That's bullshit. Words do nothing. And I don't care if a story sounds *plausible* to the believer, he would still be the moron to chase down.

So, it's perfectly ok for me to promise to pay money to the first person to murder your "child-raping" ass? Only the person who actually murders you should face any kind of criminal charges?

It's not the pen, it's the man's conscious that decides what happens with the sword.

I don't think anyone is saying that the person who commits the crime should be absolved of the blame because someone else told him to do it. They saying the guy who order other people murdered should not be allowed to walk free while his flunkies go to jail for the crimes he ordered. It's like you too ignorant to have ever heard of the mafia and organized crime.

You're only trying to pass blame, you are saying "the devil made me do it" is a valid excuse, and fuck that.

Actually it's opposite of that, they're saying we should lock up both the "pawn" and "the devil".

about two weeks ago
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How Women Became Gamers Through D&D

tbannist Re:It's always been a myth (239 comments)

If you really care about journalistic ethics, you will want to distance yourself from #gamergate because the prominent people supporting it have none. They've published lies, been caught, and then refused to retract them after they were proven to be lies. Frankly, it seems like there are some very unethical people deliberately pouring gasoline on this fire to see how many people they can burn.

about two weeks ago
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How Women Became Gamers Through D&D

tbannist Re:More feminist FUD (239 comments)

So those "AAA" titles (which cost the most to produce) actually don't appeal to the majority of players? It makes you wonder why they spend so much time and money pursuing an ever-shrinking fraction of the marketplace...

about two weeks ago
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35,000 Walrus Come Ashore In Alaska

tbannist Re:The problem with double standards. (292 comments)

So we have: sea ice that might be just a little lower than normal in certain parts of Alaska, but pretty normal overall.

I suppose that depends on your definition of normal, for example it's about 2 million square kilometers below the average for 1980-2010, which hardly seems to qualify as normal. I can a reason see why you would choose an average of the lowest years on record for comparison, but it's not a very flattering reason.

about a month ago
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35,000 Walrus Come Ashore In Alaska

tbannist Re:The problem with double standards. (292 comments)

Really? Nothing to do with the fact we're coming out of an ice age

Yes, because we are not "coming out a [glacial period]", we are headed into one. With out anthropogenic caarbon emissions, we would actually be on the long slow decline (-0.2 C per 1000y) into another glacial period. So, by definition, it can not have anything to do with "a fact" which is not true.

and that we're still lower than the interglacial temperatures prior to the last ice age?

I don't know what source you're using for this claim, but you appear to be mixing up the terminology. An Ice Age is the period during which there are glaciers at the polls and it is made up of glacial and inter-glacial periods. If you're talking about the world being colder than before there were glaciars at the polls, then obviously, yes the world probably is colder than it was 2.58 million years ago, before the polar ice caps formed. Pretty much by definition any non-ice age period should be warmer than any ice-age period. If you mean temperatures "prior to the last [glacial period]" it also probably correct that the temperature is below the maximum from the previous interglacial which ice core records indicate was about +3 degrees above 1950. However, it should be noted that this interglacial has never been that warm. The normal trend is for a very warm beginning to an interglacial period and then a long term trend of declining temperatures, so, it doesn't make sense to say "still lower" unless you are counting on the anthropogenic forcing to exceed +3 degrees C.

We're seeing these things because of fossil fuels, not for any other reason?

To the best of your knowledge, yes. The combined effect of all of the natural forcings that we know about and can measure have had a combined negative impact on global temperatures over the last decade and a half, and the termperature has continued to rise, although at a slower pace than previously. There are a few other anthropogenic climate forcings that account for a small part of the warming (land use changes and albedo change effects, for example) but the biggest factor is the increase in greenhouse gases and the feedback effects that that increase triggers. It should be noted that not all anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions come from fossil fuels. Concrete, for example, actually emits a fair amount of CO2 as well, but the grandparent is essentially correct.

about a month ago
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Study Links Pacific Coastal Warming To Changing Winds

tbannist Re:"Belief" is not part of the scientific method (207 comments)

Funny, I always thought "experiment" was in there somewhere.

Apparently, you should be at your most scientific (and smug) when you don't do experiments.

Sigh. Experiments would be part of "observation", as in you conduct an experiment and observe the results.

If you weren't so busy being a cynical jackass, you might actually have time to learn things.

about a month ago
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Hundreds of Thousands Turn Out For People's Climate March In New York City

tbannist Re:Just in time for another record cold winter (200 comments)

I know I shouldn't feed the trolls, however, ...

Obviously, you don't understand how science works:

Record hot summer = Evidence of global warming

As part of a trend of record hot summers, for sure. Individually? Not unless the record heat is so extraordinary that it falls outside of what would be possible without global warming.

Record cold winter = Well, that's just weather, pay it no mind.

A record cold winter would be evidence against global warming if it was part of trend, or it was so cold that it fell out of what should be possible with global warming. Having said that, globally this past winter had the 3rd warmest december, the 4th warmest January and the 21st warmest February, none of which exactly qualify as "record cold" on the global scale.

Extreme weather events = Evidence of global warming

Again it's the trends in extreme weather events more than the individual events that matter with certain exceptions where the events themselves fall out of what would be possible without global warming.

Lack of extreme weather events = Well, that's just weather, pay it no mind.

Again, it the trends, not individual weather on any specific year that matters

Ice melting in Antarctica = Evidence of global warming

Record ice in arctic = Well, that's just weather, pay it no mind.

I think you might have your north and south mixed up. We're near the record low for Arctic ice extent, and at record highs in Antarctic ice extent. Both of which are expected as part of global warming.

IT'S SCIENCE, PEOPLE!

It actually is, whether or not you resort to derision and mockery.

about a month ago
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Is the Tesla Model 3 Actually Going To Cost $50,000?

tbannist Re: Still pretty affordable (393 comments)

Once all the hospitals and other facilities are government, you have no place to turn except for the government.

Interesting note: There are countries that provide universal health care where the government owns all the hospitals and clinics and there are countries where it doesn't. Universal health care doesn't require that the government own the health care infrastructure. The government only needs to take over the primary health care insurance market.

Another interesting note: Many of the countries with universal health care still have for-profit supplemental health care coverage for the things that are not covered by the universal system.

about a month and a half ago
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Extent of Antarctic Sea Ice Reaches Record Levels

tbannist Re:FYI (635 comments)

But 3 consecutive years of expansion would be....

Good news?

It's not happening, though. This year is really, really close to last year so it's more like a 2 year rebound from a new record low. If we're really lucky, 2012's minimum extent record will stand for a decade or longer. That would be good news for us, but I don't expect it to.

about a month and a half ago
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UN Study Shows Record-High Increases For Atmospheric CO2 In 2013

tbannist Re:Talking Point (427 comments)

When the climate change topic comes up, my brain automatically translates that the punitive corrective measures bandied about over the years...Carbon Tax, Environmental Regulation, and all the other proposed measures that wind up trading modest pollution levels for wideband economic austerity.

Why would you think that Carbon taxes or environmental regulation would actually trigger "wideband economic austerity"? We've been through similar measures at least twice before (CFCs and Acid Rain) and as non-intuitive as it may seem now, the interventions actually turned out to have a small positive effect on the economy. It turns out that when pollution is free, there is a certain inertia where companies often don't take steps that would actually be beneficial to their bottom line because the benefit is perceived to be small and potentially risky.

Furthermore, there are several countries (and areas withing individual countries) already have carbon taxes and regulation and they have not been driven out of business by their less-regulated competition. Norway, for example, has had a carbon tax for over 20 years.

about 1 month ago
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How Scientific Consensus Has Gotten a Bad Reputation

tbannist Re:Scientific Consensus (770 comments)

Science is about provability, consensus is about getting majority or even a plurality of opinions.

I'm afraid not. Mathematics is about provabiity. Science is about predictability (or understanding). That's why science must be repeatable.

These two things are mutually exclusive.

Again, I'm afraid not. You inevitably need a consensus that something has been "proven". You need independent verification that your results are correct and if no one can reproduce your results, they won't be accepted and won't be considered "proven".

Piltdown Man was once "consensus". We know how that turned out.

As early as 1913, David Waterston of King's College London published in Nature his conclusion that the sample consisted of an ape mandible and human skull. Likewise, French paleontologist Marcellin Boule concluded the same thing in 1915. A third opinion from American zoologist Gerrit Smith Miller concluded Piltdown's jaw came from a fossil ape. In 1923, Franz Weidenreich examined the remains and correctly reported that they consisted of a modern human cranium and an orangutan jaw with filed-down teeth.

- Piltdown Man page on Wikipedia

I'm not too familiar with the case, but I'm doubtful that there was ever a consensus on his piltdown man, even among the people that didn't want to believe that Dawson was a con man, there was much disagreement over how the fake find should be interpreted.

about 2 months ago
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Out of the Warehouse: Climate Researchers Rescue Long-Lost Satellite Images

tbannist Re:Straight to the pointless debate (136 comments)

If some dope seriously compromised the thermometer's accuracy, say buy putting it near a radiative surface, then accuracy is lost and you have to throw the data out. You can't average out the error and just subtract it from all the numbers. The data is useless - you cannot repair inaccurate data.

Where you're talking about measurements, there's a difference between accuracy and bias. An accurate instrument with a known bias can still be useful.

about 2 months ago
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Out of the Warehouse: Climate Researchers Rescue Long-Lost Satellite Images

tbannist Re:Straight to the pointless debate (136 comments)

The ground station temperature data has been quite thoroughly manipulated, always "adjusted" in the direction of confirming the theories of the researcher making the adjustment, Pardon my skepticism about that data.

Strangely enough BEST (partially funded by the Koch brothers) actually found that was not true. They actually found some the adjustments were over-correcting for warm bias and actually reducing the actual warming trend by a small amount. Unsurprisingly, adjustments are made to correct both unusual up and unusual down spikes in the temperature records which are often caused by changes in staffing, location, and methodology at temperature stations.

The satellite data, however, has no such shadow over it. It's good, solid data - the sort of thing one expects in science.

I don't think you actually know what you're talking about.

... then I'll be annoyed that the data source I trust has been mixed with adjusted data.

Too late, the satellite data has to be adjusted to be usable in the first place and UAH, for example, has been through 10 rounds of adjustments to correct various errors.

about 2 months ago
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Anita Sarkeesian, Creator of "Tropes vs. Women," Driven From Home By Trolls

tbannist Re: Her work (1262 comments)

Ok, so who are the patriarchy? I guarantee you wont have an answer or it will be so abstract that it can encompass everything like some conspiracy theory.

Your reply makes little sense. There is no "the patriarchy". That's like asking "who are the democracy"? Patriachy is a potential aspect of a society, as opposed to matriarchy and gender-neutrality.

I got another one for you. How can you tell if a character in a narrative is being sexually objectified? I guarantee you wont have that answer either.

Whether or not a character is being sexually objectified would likely be a subjective evaluation, though there are times where there is near unanimous agreement that it is happening.

If you are under the illusion that I'm some sort of gender crusader, you've been misled.

about 2 months ago

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Game of Throne Premiers

tbannist tbannist writes  |  more than 3 years ago

tbannist (230135) writes "The long anticipated Game of Throne series adapted from George R. R. Martin's epic novel finally premiered last night on HBO. Like many of HBO's other dramatic series, the show seems to combine strong acting and excellent production to bring the novel to life. Personally, I was rather impressed by the first episode and hope that series will continue as strongly as it started. According to metacritic, I'm not alone. They list average ratings of 82 out of 100 from critics and 9.5 out of 10 from users."
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tbannist tbannist writes  |  about 8 years ago

tbannist (230135) writes "According to Gamasutra, a survey of Tokyo Game Show attendees indicates the PS3 is the most anticipated system with 58.3% indicating they were most interested in it, the Wii came in second with 33.8%, and the Xbox 360 trails with a mere 7.9%. On the other hand, only 10.5% of of the respondents indicated they intended to buy a PS3 at launch, while 17.8% indicated they would buy a Wii at launch, and for some reason 1.4% indicated they would buy a Xbox 360 "at launch" as well."

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