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SOTU: Community Colleges, Employers To Train Workers For High-Paying Coding Jobs

turkeyfish Re:Here's why this is a bad idea (200 comments)

So if I understand your argument correctly. We would be better off firing you to save money because you are incapable of stimulating or teaching 5/6th of your class to do better?

Myself, I would rather see 5/6 of my tax money wasted on trying to get kids educated regardless of the outcome, than seeing my taxes go up so that guys like MItt Romney can pay an annual rate of 13% on his annual income, while I have to pay 28%. That way you can hire more effective teachers and raise the general level of education in this country, which is precisely why we see the kind of failure you describe in the first place.

about a week ago
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SOTU: Community Colleges, Employers To Train Workers For High-Paying Coding Jobs

turkeyfish Re:Bull pucky (200 comments)

"Time to run screaming in the opposite direction."

Yeah, right into the hands of privatized education and diploma mills that are generating the most student debt.

That's the beauty of the President's plan. It asks for those who already are doing well to give something back so that deserving students can go to community college at virtually no cost.

I would rather see loopholes for "good will", "forward carry", "depletion allowances" and preferential tax credits for owning "rolling stock" eliminated, but since the GOP isn't going to do this, the only viable option is to ask those who make $500,000 per year to pay the same rates they did under Ronald Reagan.

Why should guys like Mitt Romney only get to pay 13% on his annual income in tax, while the rest of us pay 28% or more?

Why do so many advocate more tax breaks for Mitt Romney and less to educate average Americans?

about a week ago
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SOTU: Community Colleges, Employers To Train Workers For High-Paying Coding Jobs

turkeyfish Re:Can we send his whole administration... (200 comments)

Watch as the GOP and their ilk will generate countless efforts to belittle the President's efforts at job creation here. They must in order to mask the reality that they offer nothing substantive as an alternative other than more tax breaks and benefits for the already wealthy. The modern GOP represents the debt holders, who want to hold the US economy hostage to their dictates and insure that the bulk of other's labors benefit the "job creators", but not the people actually doing the work.

You could see it in Ernst's response. All rhetoric and no concrete plans for anything. The concrete will be attached to the ankles of the working man in the backrooms filled with GOP and corporate lobbyists, who will draft the legislative language for them.

about a week ago
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SOTU: Community Colleges, Employers To Train Workers For High-Paying Coding Jobs

turkeyfish Re:HUH? (200 comments)

Perhaps you are unaware that the US is currently spending nearly 5 billion dollars in discovering new ways to use photosynthesis to produce and deliver new fuel mixes. There are a lot of jobs that are currently supported by that 5 billion. Because only a tiny fraction of available sunlight has been harvested for this purpose, there is far more than 5 billion to be made in the future. This will be a good investment and a good career move for many. Certainly, a lot better than investing in more tax cuts for billionaires.

about a week ago
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SOTU: Community Colleges, Employers To Train Workers For High-Paying Coding Jobs

turkeyfish Re:A million medical coders and two doctors is no (200 comments)

Nonsense. If you train a million doctors the worse that could happen is that you have nearly a million paramedics, some trained to do many of the simple or relatively specialized tasks that doctors already farm out to their nurses and aides already. The result would be no excuse for such high health care costs and wages for doctors, since much of what they currently do could be done for far less by paramedics or even in some cases by robots or medical devices.

Lets end the nonsense that the status quo is the best we can do.

about a week ago
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SOTU: Community Colleges, Employers To Train Workers For High-Paying Coding Jobs

turkeyfish Re: False Paradox (200 comments)

"How about instead of focusing on teaching everybody how to 'code' we start teaching people how to apply logic to solve problems? "

What are you trying to do, destroy News Corporation's business model?

about a week ago
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SOTU: Community Colleges, Employers To Train Workers For High-Paying Coding Jobs

turkeyfish Re: False Paradox (200 comments)

"It gives the impression that a high-paying job is relatively easy to get, and that's just not true."

I didn't get that impression at all and suggest that your thoughts and biases about what the president said gave you that impression. There was nothing in his remarks that implied it in a logical sense, although the president is almost certainly correct. If you can get more people coding, there will be better coders and some will get paid better than if they did not have such skills. Not all code leads to new insights into the structure of the universe or changes how the world works. Nonetheless, one can make a lot of money just coding financial transactions for a great many businesses, nothing earthshaking in terms of novel or brilliant code, but the stuff economies are built and run on nonetheless.

I applaud the President for this initiative as it gets people thinking about coding and computer science, as well as other technical professions. Sure beats more tax breaks for the wealthy as the solution to all the world's problems.

about a week ago
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SOTU: Community Colleges, Employers To Train Workers For High-Paying Coding Jobs

turkeyfish Re:False Paradox (200 comments)

Actually, you are mistaken for assuming than any educational effort that is national in scope doesn't start with speechmaking and "propaganda". Bright ideas that occur in a vacuum twinkle out quickly. Its only when those ideas are amalgamated and become an enterprise or new field of study and disseminated widely do they really make a difference.

about a week ago
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SOTU: Community Colleges, Employers To Train Workers For High-Paying Coding Jobs

turkeyfish Re:Paradox (200 comments)

The reality is that ALL of the best coders start somewhere. One can't say that someone who is at college age is "too old" to be a good programmer any more than one could say that there are no mathematicians or physicists who made any important contributions after 30. It is often at the "community college level" that many are first introduced to technical subjects that do not lend themselves well to the way our high school curricula are structured.

Anyway, that's not the point, its the final outcome of having a more educated workforce to remain relatively competitive in an increasingly technological world that is the goal toward which our society should strive. After all, among all populations, there is one tail of the distribution curve that will produce the most innovation. The bigger the number of the people getting educated, the larger that tail of the curve will be.

about a week ago
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NASA, NOAA: 2014 Was the Warmest Year In the Modern Record

turkeyfish Re:Lies (360 comments)

The kind of group think you are talking about can best be found on Fox News, where unlike the for the science community, evidence for any assertions are either not required or purely optional. However, hey, you convinced yourself your rhetoric sounds great, even if it is irrelevant.

about two weeks ago
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NASA, NOAA: 2014 Was the Warmest Year In the Modern Record

turkeyfish Re:Facts (360 comments)

" So called "green" electricity tends to be simply expensive. "

Perhaps true, but in relative terms once one factors in the costs of not doing it, it is actually very cheap and one reason that alternative energy companies are continuing to thrive even as oil prices plummet. Solar and wind energy are getting cheaper and this recent change in oil prices will only cause more intense economic selection to make them cheaper still.

about two weeks ago
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NASA, NOAA: 2014 Was the Warmest Year In the Modern Record

turkeyfish Re:Facts (360 comments)

"I think change is inevitable. Who are we to fight it?"

Sounds like the approach Neville Chamberlain was making right after he returned from Munich. Sadly, the consequences of such think often prove catastrophic.

about two weeks ago
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NASA, NOAA: 2014 Was the Warmest Year In the Modern Record

turkeyfish Re:This is great! (360 comments)

Arizona may have beaches, but sadly it will also have soil temperatures that will make it extremely difficult to grow crops, unless you raise cactus for tequila.

about two weeks ago
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NASA, NOAA: 2014 Was the Warmest Year In the Modern Record

turkeyfish Re:Don't fear... (360 comments)

Simply more evidence that Americans don't take Canadians seriously.

about two weeks ago
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NASA, NOAA: 2014 Was the Warmest Year In the Modern Record

turkeyfish Re:Someone teach me something here... (360 comments)

Your attempt to address the "cost of addressing global warming" is bogus without also calculating the cost of not addressing global warming. Clearly, there is very little evidence that there are more costs to not burning fossil fuels than there is to burning it. We can ramp up solar and wind energy and in some cases nuclear energy to replace fossil fuels. What will be lost? Jobs in the fossil fuels industry, perhaps a million. Jobs in the oil service industries, add a few more million. These could easily be offset by increased retraining and increased jobs in the alternative energy industries and to boost there is a very positive trade off of not having billion dollar oils spills to clean up, billion dollars of contaminants to remove from our air, water and food, billions of dollars of health care costs by removing highly carcinogenic substances from our food and immediate environment, far more fish, far less acid rain, and billions less in litigation costs.

Admittedly, there would be big monetary losses for those so entrenched in fossil fuels that they fail to give them up. However, one must ask why should others be forced to pay for this burden by shoving these costs onto the taxpayer? Yes, I agree that dealing with climate change will be an economic disaster to those who refuse to wean themselves from fossil fuel based economics. However, markets are already beginning to speak and future investors are taking note. Fortunes in the future will not be based on oil because its just not a good deal for most people on the planet.

about two weeks ago
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NASA, NOAA: 2014 Was the Warmest Year In the Modern Record

turkeyfish Re: Someone teach me something here... (360 comments)

Great sophism and rhetoric, but where is the evidence of this vast conspiracy of scientists to always add 1.2 C ever time they read a thermometer?

I always like to ask the skeptics and deniers a question they can never answer and invariably refuse to try.

If its not getting hotter, why are virtually all the world's glacier and ice sheets melting?

Go ahead, use those "senior" statistical skills you allude to. I dare you.

about two weeks ago
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NASA, NOAA: 2014 Was the Warmest Year In the Modern Record

turkeyfish Re:Someone teach me something here... (360 comments)

and I call bullshit on remarks that provide no evidence to the contrary. If you want to play scientist, then you need to have some evidence to make your case. As is typical of the skeptic and denier community, there is much rhetoric and sophism, some rather silly, but none able to withstand the scrutiny of close examination.

about two weeks ago
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NASA, NOAA: 2014 Was the Warmest Year In the Modern Record

turkeyfish Re:Someone teach me something here... (360 comments)

Congratulations on having more than 4 brain cells. It would behoove you to use them.

Scientists use proxy measures all the time. Tree rings and the rings in mollusk tests are very good examples. Likewise so are growth trajectories of various plankton. There is no reason to assume that simply because humans weren't around to read a thermometer, that the world at a particular moment and place in time was not within some degree of tolerance close to a particular temperature. Sure at any point in a scientific argument one could add "and here a miracle occurs". However, science is about dismissing such speculation in the absence of evidence.

By the way, the "wide error bars" on any one particular point in time might cast doubt as to the accuracy of a particular measured time period, but that wouldn't affect the least squares estimate of the trend, except to increase the variance and increase the confidence interval of the regression. If they were all very large and not different on average from each other, you would have a point, but that is clearly not the case for the data set under discussion here (historical temperature records).

about two weeks ago
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NASA, NOAA: 2014 Was the Warmest Year In the Modern Record

turkeyfish Re:Someone teach me something here... (360 comments)

Quite true, but the probability that your remarks are at all relevant is becoming increasingly small as more and more temperature measurements are taken.

At some point, skeptics are going to have to actually produce some evidence that would suggest than humanity needs to any longer take them seriously, when the odds that they are right and its either "not getting warmer" or "its getting colder" are smaller all the time.

about two weeks ago

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Deutsche Telecom rolls out 400 Gbps Service

turkeyfish turkeyfish writes  |  more than 2 years ago

turkeyfish writes "Deutsche Telecom rolls out 400 Gbps service over a single channel to select customers, more than doubling the top US and Canadian rates of 186 Gbps.

With the use of Alcatel Lucent software technology, DT will be able to deliver on a single optical fiber a total of 48 channels — making the total potential throughput up to 24.6Tbps (terabits per second) — or the equivalent of 3,696 CDs per second.

Does this recent development provide further evidence that US leadership in telecommunications technology and is rapidly slipping away? Does this together with dramatic improvements in commercial internet service in Korea, Japan, and other countries, who already have much higher average bandwidths available to their citizens at much lower cost and who are now more heavily investing per capita in education and telecommunications development than does the US, indicate that the US is now in danger of falling even further behind?

What does full commercial roll out of such high bandwidth technologies portend for the development of global internet service economies given that Germany may soon have the technological and economic edge in the race for global information control and its consequent impact on global economic supremacy?

Will this development give German data mining companies an upper hand in economic and political competition among nations?

Is there anything the US can do to catch up or will US IT customers be happy to see DT replace ATT, Verizon, and other US carriers for their bandwidth needs given their newly emerging spare capacity?

Besides wanting to move to Germany, what would you do with 400Gbps service?"

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Huge Increase In Beaufort Gyre Detected

turkeyfish turkeyfish writes  |  about 3 years ago

turkeyfish writes "UK scientists are reporting today in the journal Nature Geoscience that a huge bulge of freshwater is forming in the Western Arctic Ocean caused by a large gyre of freshwater. The gyre appears to indicate that the ice is becoming thin enough over the Arctic Ocean that the wind is beginning to affect the motion of water under the ice. A sudden release of this water or its emergence to the surface will greatly accelerate the melting of the remaining polar oceanic ice and likely alter oceanic circulation in the North Atlantic."
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Java to be Restricted to Enterprise Use Only?

turkeyfish turkeyfish writes  |  about 4 years ago

turkeyfish (950384) writes "InfoWorld is reporting that
a pair of analysts at Forrester Research are claiming that Oracle will confine the use of Java to enterprise use. With Oracle imposing tighter control over how Java
can be used for broad use and use by third parties and the apparrent collapse of the Java Community Process evidenced by the Apache Foundation's departure from the JCP, how will
the future of Java in the broader community be affected? Where will those in places like universities, where much Java inovation has taken place in the past, go as the sun apparently sets on
the the concept of "Write Once, Run Anywhere", especially as budgets shrink at universities, non-profit organizations, and many small commercial shops and as the future of alternatives hang in the legal limbo of litigation?

What alternatives, if any, are developer's in such environments considering as the new reality that government no longer has a role to play and consequently both the internet and programming languages become tiered, into those for the have's and those for the have nots?"

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Java to be Rstricted to Enterprise Use Only?

turkeyfish turkeyfish writes  |  about 4 years ago

turkeyfish (950384) writes "InfoWorld is reporting that analysts at Forrester Research are claiming that Oracle is planning to restrict Java to a specialty niche as a tool for commercial enterprise development. What do slashdot users predict will be the future of Java as a lingua universalis of multiple computing platforms? Is the concept of "Write once, run anywhere dead" or are there other languages that will take over after Java becomes a speciality language? If so, which ones?"
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