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FTDI Reportedly Bricking Devices Using Competitors' Chips.

turp182 Re:On the other hand... (665 comments)

I finally took the time to RTFA and the situation is different than I understood.

Does the FTDI driver have any patented technology (I hate software patterns, but it matters a bit in this case)? And, why are the fake chips requesting FTDI's driver?

Patent issues aside, it sounds like the hardware is requesting a 3rd party driver, which the 3rd party owns and benefits from, even though they "give it away" for free. The fakes need to provide their own driver. Bootstrapping to a 3rd party proprietary driver is a situation where one should expect problems or failures, especially as the driver is updated (and regardless of how one receives it). Bricking is pushing it, just non-functional would suffice (bricking pure counterfeits is fine to me, but fakes that aren't promoted as the real thing is different - except they want the 3rd party driver).

If there are patents in the driver code then IP is being stolen.

In any case, the fakes should provide their own drivers. That is the crux of the issue.

13 hours ago

FTDI Reportedly Bricking Devices Using Competitors' Chips.

turp182 Re:On the other hand... (665 comments)

Is Wally World doing "malicious damage" by, in many cases, selling few-use cheap crap when more higher quality is available? That's an implicit guarantee of failure to me. The business model is dependance on failure due to low quality. (which is an issue here, so some degree).

But after having had their proprietary IP (and Trademark by the sound of it), one for which they claim a certain hardware/software performance expectation, can an attempt to enforce authenticity be a problem? What's the point of any IP? Keep in mind that they have to handle and deflect counterfeit claims.

This is counterfeiting and potentially Trademark infringement as well. If you receive counterfeit currency, are you legally allowed to use it?

The only criminal side is the infringer.

Devil's advocate: Don't take the update. Does the hardware allow for a rollback/reflash? That's not FTDI's problem.

Any "good faith" on the part of the purchaser is irrelevant. They purchased counterfeit goods (not much different from stolen, in fact stolen applies in terms of IP/Trademark). Even if they "made a mistake", the product they have purchased is effectively illegal, why should they be allowed to use it?


FTDI Reportedly Bricking Devices Using Competitors' Chips.

turp182 Re:On the other hand... (665 comments)

Yeah, I didn't RTFA or even the complete thread... Does that impact my logic?


FTDI Reportedly Bricking Devices Using Competitors' Chips.

turp182 Re:On the other hand... (665 comments)

And they disable a bunch of truly pirate hardware. This isn't a software issue, it's a hardware interface issue (OK, it's software, but the connection to the hardware is the key). I'm would think they have IP/patents on their setup. I haven't verified that, but if they have an non-unique hardware/software solution it is certainly patentable (preferably as hardware and software together, the verification means they have addressed both sides I assume).

Everyone purchasing the fake is harmed, and it is harm. They need to take it up with the company they bought the hardware from AND with the company that manufactured it. That is the route to a fair legal solution.

Class action against the offenders, not those who defend their propriety IP.


FTDI Reportedly Bricking Devices Using Competitors' Chips.

turp182 Re:On the other hand... (665 comments)

Is the FTDI hardware interface driver a 100% pure "standard" USB interface (something Windows or Linux may include by default)? Then the hardware should work. If not, FTDI is clear and free to enforce their hardware via their drivers. Graphics cards come to mind (Nvidias driver optimizations wouldn't work with a competing card).

It's just optimization of the hardware to software interface. Competitive advantage. Something that is very worth protecting, And this is defense, not offense in my opinion.

But, this is certainly an offensive attack on the Alibaba business model. And that is a good thing (full disclosure, I have purchased dashcams from the Allibaa consumer site, Russian design, direct from China, with English as the default language - great stuff, I also watched some pro-camera scammers get shut down, I was looking for a deal that was "too good to be true").


FTDI Reportedly Bricking Devices Using Competitors' Chips.

turp182 Re:On the other hand... (665 comments)

You get what you pay for. Unless good counterfeits are a high percentage of the market you will know the price. You KNOW the real price. Those discounts are "too good to be true".

This is a driver issue, and a manufacturer can certainly code solely to their hardware (who doesn't? other than general hardware providers that can implement an existing interface, and expose the fact of this implementation). And they can enforce this (enforcing a driver/hardware interface).

The solution is simple, the knockoffs need to provide a proper driver set. But if their knockoff hardware identifies as, but isn't, another companies product, then so be it. If that prevents a proper alternative driver set, then so be it. They are identifying as hardware they are not.

The knockoff companies should get "their asses sued big-time". And I would bet they will. But those taking advantage of the "too good to be true" are also complicit in the counterfeiting (I guarantee someone knew what was up). These parties both deserve and need to pay up, if this is the hardware solution they want to keep.


Microsoft Introduces Build Cadence Selection With Windows 10

turp182 Re:Aero yet (112 comments)

Thanks for the tip. And Winkey+Up = Maximize (+Down can be deduced, expect the app loses focus at that point).

2 days ago

Password Security: Why the Horse Battery Staple Is Not Correct

turp182 Re:symbols, caps, numbers (547 comments)

I like to concatenate song lyrics first letters.

My favorite password, which I can't take credit for was:

Translates to:
Seasons don't fear the reaper, nether do the wind, the sun, or the rain.

Needs more cowbell!

about two weeks ago

Tesla Announces Dual Motors, 'Autopilot' For the Model S

turp182 Re:Performance (283 comments)

I can't YouTube from work, but there's a video shot in Alaska of a Traxxis road car going 100mph down a highway for a few miles.

It was this model:

0 to 100mph in 5 seconds. I'm happy with my much slower (35mph) off roader by the same company. Awesome fun while camping.

about two weeks ago

NASA Finds a Delaware-Sized Methane "Hot Spot" In the Southwest

turp182 Re:Relative sizes (213 comments)

No, it cost two pence.

about two weeks ago

Lego Ends Shell Partnership Under Greenpeace Pressure

turp182 Re:Fuck Greenpeace (252 comments)

Your last sentence is quite ironic (I have little to no idea what you were talking about), but I thoroughly enjoyed your post.

Keep it up, whatever it is (I believe "it" = framing various parties as D&D entities and then, somehow, performing mathematical calculations based on the words describing moral direction, resulting in nonsensical results?).

"Sea Ranger" was my favorite part.

about two weeks ago

Amazon Robot Picking Challenge 2015

turp182 Re:How does an automated shelf work? (106 comments)

The shelves come to the human picker with the items for a particular order.

They describe is as "Kiva is the ultimate goods-to-man (goods-to-person) automation system."

Now they want to replace the word "man" or "person" with "robot".

The next step from there is to automate stocking of the shelves (I'm would bet the shelves come to the loading area when there are items available to resupply them).

about two weeks ago

Co-Founder of PayPal Peter Thiel: Society Is Hostile To Science and Technology

turp182 Re:We need a movie to spread the word (238 comments)

Unfortunately, Real Genius suffers badly from horrific acting (the young teenager and the girl, not to mention most of the others), some terrible scenes (the water party takes the cake), and an unappealing 1980's shooting style that dates the movie badly.

But, the movie holds a very special place in my heart, I love it. Actually, it holds a very special nostalgic place in my heart, my memory of watching it a lot of times a long time ago are special to me.

About a year ago I tried to watch it again, and within 20 minutes I realized I had to stop. I was going to ruin my memories of the movie, as my appreciation of quality acting and good production values had changed considerably.

I love to replay it in my mind though, but never actually watch it...

Always check your optics.

about two weeks ago

US Says It Can Hack Foreign Servers Without Warrants

turp182 Swiss Banks? (335 comments)

So are we working to hack Swiss banks or other off-shore financial institutions, looking for tax evasion by US citizens?

It would be a dragnet, but we know there is tax evasion occurring.

This would seem reasonable if the precedent stands. Especially if the evidence can be used for further warrants.

I need to watch Sneakers again...

about two weeks ago

Google's Security Guards Are Now Officially Google Employees

turp182 Re:This makes sense. (134 comments)

Taking it a little further, but still not too complicated for advanced physical security:
1. Require HR be present to open the door. This prevents security conspiracy to enter. And if HR conspires then:
2. Have an alert sent to the "owner" of the system, automatically. Head of HR controls the automatic alerts.
3. Control when security can access physical security recording tapes (if ever). HR or even another C-Level should be present outside of "swap the backups" time.

It wouldn't be harder to be even more strict, and not that expensive. And this is off the top of my head, and I haven't done much physical security.

about two weeks ago

Google's Security Guards Are Now Officially Google Employees

turp182 Re:This makes sense. (134 comments)

Only the head or heads of Security would have such access. Maybe not even then, an HR rep might be needed in an emergency.

And I would expect good physical security for secure rooms, at least motion detection and cameras (and door access alerts during certain hours).

about two weeks ago

Google Threatened With $100M Lawsuit Over Nude Celebrity Photos

turp182 Re:In other news (225 comments)

Thanks for the Dumb Warnings website, nice laugh on a Friday morning.

I may have to make a submission to them, I noticed that fireplace logs always say "Warning: Flammable".

about three weeks ago

Ask Slashdot: Is It Worth Being Grandfathered On Verizon's Unlimited Data Plan?

turp182 Re:T-Mobile (209 comments)

One downside, rural coverage can be a bit limited, but that only impacts people who regularly visit rural areas. Their LTE is fantastic.

about three weeks ago



NASA is Ending Most Activites With Russia Over Ukraine/Crimea

turp182 turp182 writes  |  about 7 months ago

turp182 (1020263) writes "NASA is suspending much of its work with Russia in light of its actions in Ukraine but said it will continue to collaborate with Russia's space agency on International Space Station operations.

A statement sent out by NASA on Wednesday said the U.S. space agency was acting "given Russia's ongoing violation of Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity.""

Link to Original Source

NSA Still Funded to Spy On US Phone Records,Vote Fails

turp182 turp182 writes  |  about a year ago

turp182 (1020263) writes "The Amash Amendment (#100) to HR 2397 (DOD appropriations bill) failed to pass the House of Representatives (this link will change tomorrow, it is the current day activity of the House) at 6:54PM EST today, meaning it will not be added to the appropriations bill. The amendment would have specifically defunded the bulk collection of American phone records.

Roll call may not be available until tomorrow.

Subjective: Let freedom be reigned."



Analysis - Oklahoma, the Ten Commandments, and Satan

turp182 turp182 writes  |  about 9 months ago

In 2012 a Ten Commandments monument was placed outside the Capitol building in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Since then Temple of Satan has proposed another monument to complement the Ten Commandmentâ(TM)s one.

In response to the Satanists, some Oklahoma state Representatives have come forward to comment on the situation.

From the above linked CNN article:
* Oklahoma state Rep. Paul Wesselhoft told CNN that he doesn't think the Satanists' statue will be approved. âoeWhat will disqualify them has really nothing to do with Satan as such; it's that it has no historical significance for the state of Oklahoma,â he said.
* An Oklahoma lawmaker told CNN that the Satanists' message wouldn't fly in the Bible Belt state, where nearly two-thirds of the population is Christian. "Any monument displayed on state property should reflect the values of Oklahoma or memorialize those who built or defended our freedom," Rep. Bob Cleveland said Tuesday. "In my opinion, this Satanist monument does not meet with the values of Oklahomans."

In a roundabout way, they are positing that the State of Oklahoma adheres in some manner to the Ten Commandments.

What follows is a lightweight analysis of Oklahomaâ(TM)s consistency and adherence to the Ten Commandments.

First, letâ(TM)s decide which of the Ten Commandments should be reviewed.

Iâ(TM)m not concerned about honoring moms and dads, nor having to work on Sunday, or the name of the lord being taken in vain, or false images or other gods. These are minor Commandments in my opinion.

Letâ(TM)s focus on the big ones.

Commandment Fail - Thou shalt not kill

Oklahoma uses capital punishment to kill prisoners. They last did so, brining in the New Year, on January 9, 2014. They have killed 109 prisoners since 1976.

So Oklahoma fails at what I consider to be the most important Commandment on the list.

Multiple Commandment Fail - Thou shalt not steal; Thou shalt not covet your neighborâ(TM)s house; Thou shalt not covet your neighborâ(TM)s male servant, or his female servant, his ox, or his donkey, or anything that is your neighborâ(TM)s

Oklahoma is a big fan of âoecivil forfeitureâ (they are among the âoeworst abusers in the nationâ), and property can be taken without charges, much less a conviction, and then retained or sold for profit.

Thatâ(TM)s stealing, so another Commandment broken.

Commandment Fail - Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor

âoeBearing false witnessâ is effectively lying, and in the realm of State/Local officials and staff the key things to look for are corruption and a lack of transparency.

Oklahoma, as a State, ranks 38th out of 50 with regards to their Corruption Risk per the website

In 2010 The Daily Beast ranked Oklahoma 10th in their list of The Most Corrupt States, citing many cases of corruption, extortion, fraud, etc.

So we have another Commandment breached.


I see a minimum of Five Failed Commandments that Oklahoma doesnâ(TM)t live up to.

So, it appears Rep. Paul Wesselhoft was incorrect in citing the âoehistorical significanceâ for Oklahoma with regards to the Ten Commandments. Significance would mean compliance in this situation, and that certainly isnâ(TM)t the case.

Rep. Bob Cleveland stated that âoemonuments displayed on state property should reflect the values of Oklahomaâ. Given that statement alone it makes sense that the Ten Commandments should NOT be on display at the Capitol building.

Iâ(TM)m not sure what type of monument would truly reflect the âoehistorical significanceâ and the âoevaluesâ of Oklahoma, but it is pretty clear to me that the Ten Commandments is not an appropriate choice.

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