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Systemd Adding Its Own Console To Linux Systems

ustolemyname Re:With the right cards it's trivial for video (774 comments)

I appreciate the criticism. Did another crack at research, managed to find an xorg.conf that (supposedly) does multiple sessions with one graphics card with the Nvidia driver. I think I'll try to redo the setup this weekend, if I can find the time.

I wish all my side projects were scrutinized by persons as knowledgeable as yourself. Seriously, thanks.

about a month and a half ago
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Systemd Adding Its Own Console To Linux Systems

ustolemyname Re:Ignorant too (774 comments)

Then there's the people that were running multiple keyboards, mice and monitors for a couple of people on the same box well over a decade back. What is it with Wayland fanboys not having a clue about the system that they are supposed to be improving on?

I setup such a system a year and a half ago (4 stations off one computer, totaling > 10mpx of desktop space).

Allowing me to be abundantly clear: I wish Wayland was production ready a year ago. Multiseat-X sucks for these reasons:

  • You either need a separate graphics card per session, or use framebuffered Xephyr windows to run your desktop (I chose the latter, as performance wasn't a concern, but adding more graphics cards was)
  • Dynamically assigning keyboards/mice to different screens based on a common USB host... sucks. SystemD manages sessions and integrates with udev so a hotplugged USB devices can be limited to it's associated session. Seriously awesome.
  • The above is doubly a problem as when a usb peripheral disconnects momentarily, an X session forgets about it and never sees it again... Fixed by following what was happening with GDB, putting together an awful hack, and nuking X updates from the package system.
  • All users sessions run on the same virtual terminal. I'd often ssh into the system to maintain it rather than my usual ctrl+alt+F1
  • Documentation is erratic and frequently wrong.
  • What I have works, but I would not deploy it to someone else's work environment

All that badness aside, I do appreciate only having to maintain one machine for software updates etc, not having to setup network shares, or worry about users logging in with NFS + LDAP. It made it quite easy for 4 people to share a powerful machine that they only needed the speed from on occasion, and collaboration was super simple.

I look forward to rebuilding this setup with pure SystemD + Wayland in the next 18-24 months.

about a month and a half ago
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Lennart Poettering: Open Source Community "Quite a Sick Place To Be In"

ustolemyname Re:In the spotlight (993 comments)

I apologize, I didn't make myself clear enough to justify that paradox, that apparent contradiction. My point about responsibility being a zero sum game was more about how even though A did actions that enabled B to do C does not mean B is not wholly responsible for C (Though A may also be partially, or wholly responsible. Or not).

Let me give you some other examples of non-zero sum responsibility. One can:

  • Prevent theft by being poor.
  • Never be cheated on by always being single.
  • Not die in a plane crash by never flying.
  • Avoid criticism by never doing anything noteworthy.
    • In the first three situations it would be common to blame the thief, the unfaithful, and the airline. But one can't deny the theoretical control the first party has. Just because one can be responsible for an end result (here, rubbing people the wrong way) does not imply one is accountable for the negative consequences of same (reciprocation with hateful, and harmful actions).

      Really I just found how the structure of this conversation parallels conversations I've been involved in recently regarding gender and IT, and was trying to explore the "Maybe sexism would be a step in the right direction," angle, as it at least implies acceptance of an external group of people. I think often people of our ilk tend to be dismissive and derogatory toward those who reach a different conclusion based on values we disagree with, such as the creators of systemd and their opponents who clearly value different things at this point, to the point where they can't even agree on what those different things are).

about 2 months ago
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Lennart Poettering: Open Source Community "Quite a Sick Place To Be In"

ustolemyname Re:In the spotlight (993 comments)

So, victim blaming? I see your point, but the abuse he describes experiencing (as a young white male) reminds me of a trendy workplace topic. Maybe women aren't in IT because of sexist assholes, but because of unqualified assholes.

I agree, he has some power to control the response he gets from the community. But responsibility isn't a zero-sum game, and should he have to?

about 2 months ago
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NASA Asks Boeing, SpaceX To Stop Work On Next-Gen Space Taxi

ustolemyname Maybe affects Boeing, not SpaceX (139 comments)

I really doubt SpaceX is going to stop work on a vehicle they were developing before they were awarded the contract.

Boeing, on the other hand...

about 2 months ago
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Canadian Regulator Threatens To Impose New Netflix Regulation

ustolemyname Re:Let's Regulate Canada (324 comments)

Actually, I'm Canadian.

My point was that regional blocking of Canadians by .com's predated the updated copyright legislation, they are entirely separate issues. damien_kane below provides a nice explanation why.

As an aside, the updates to the Copyright Act were to satisfy obligations to WIPO treaties more than a decade old. And it beat the hell out of C-60 that the liberals proposed in 2005, which was just "Let's add the bad parts of the DMCA to Canadian copyright law and call it a day." (Don't get me wrong, if I had my druthers I would have put Charlie Angus (NDP) in charge of this bill, but that's not going to happen any time soon. Lazy youth voters, grr).

about 2 months ago
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Canadian Regulator Threatens To Impose New Netflix Regulation

ustolemyname Re:Let's Regulate Canada (324 comments)

Those limits were imposed by modifications to the copyright act 2 years ago. What was there excuse before then?

about 2 months ago
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You Got Your Windows In My Linux

ustolemyname Re:Troll much? (613 comments)

The line immediately above:

EnvironmentFile=/etc/sysconfig/irqbalance

If you can't figure out that an "Environment FIle" might contain these things known as "Environement Variables," I question your claim to have been using Unix since 1978.

The environment file sets all the environment variables the service sees. It sees no more or less than what is in that file by default, which is both more secure and maintainable.

about 3 months ago
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You Got Your Windows In My Linux

ustolemyname Re:What's wrong with Windows Server? (613 comments)

In the first part of your post, you talk about how Unix is just as easy to administer, then later, you talk about how Active directory is easier to administer than OpenLDAP.

No, he said there exists N such that managing > N linux servers is easier than managing > N windows servers. Then he went on to compare them in single server environments, and discussed why windows is often used in small businesses as their only server.

As to installing proprietary software: honestly, my experience says that this tends to suck equally on all platforms. Had to maintain a small CS2 deployment years back, standard operating procedure when it fucked up was to reinstall the OS. I've never had to resort to such levels to clean reinstall proprietary software on linux, but I've also had difficulties with some proprietary software on Linux. I really think that tends to be a quality of the vendor thing more so than the underlying OS.

about 3 months ago
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You Got Your Windows In My Linux

ustolemyname Re:What's wrong with Windows Server? (613 comments)

Uhm... cp has the exact same behaviour as systemd. Examples from my system:
: cp -ar bin bin2
: cp -ar bin /bin2
cp: cannot create directory ‘/bin2’: Permission denied
: echo $?
1
: systemctl start dmraid.service
: systemctl start imaginary.service
Failed to issue method call: Unit imaginary.service failed to load: No such file or directory.
: echo $?
6
:

So, systemctl behaves exactly the same as cp - error message and non-zero return on failure. Perhaps you were thinking of the verbose option for cp, which some people alias in permanently but is very non-unixy?

about 3 months ago
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Ask Slashdot: What Do You Wish You'd Known Starting Out As a Programmer?

ustolemyname Re:A Programmer Competency Matrix (548 comments)

Obviously you've never had to switch out a library or framework before, or done anything cross-platform. The author talked about writing libraries that sit on top of the API, not simple thin wrappers.

about 3 months ago
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X.Org Server 1.16 Brings XWayland, GLAMOR, Systemd Integration

ustolemyname Re:X, systemd, and priveleges? (226 comments)

It also manages access to the display driver and the actual session. And yes, the same job could be done by another piece of software, but none have been written that I am aware of. That is also true of any piece of software, so I'm not sure what your point is.

Nice summary of requirements for non-root X: ehttp://hansdegoede.lvejournal.com/14268.html

about 4 months ago
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X.Org Server 1.16 Brings XWayland, GLAMOR, Systemd Integration

ustolemyname Re:X, systemd, and priveleges? (226 comments)

Sure, if you were building dev releases. And as per patches like http://lists.x.org/archives/xo..., you needed systemd-logind.

The point is 1.15 couldn't, and 1.16 can with systemd components. I think calling development builds of the 1.16 branch "previously" is quite disingenuous.

about 4 months ago
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X.Org Server 1.16 Brings XWayland, GLAMOR, Systemd Integration

ustolemyname Re:So... (226 comments)

Totally agree. When I read his analogy it initially made sense to me, but only because I implicitly switched the order of Systemd and SysV init because that makes sense. "abomination that does "everything" complexly and half-assed" perfectly describes the hell that was init scripts.

about 4 months ago
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X.Org Server 1.16 Brings XWayland, GLAMOR, Systemd Integration

ustolemyname Re:X, systemd, and priveleges? (226 comments)

The latter. Prior to this change it was impossible to run X as non-root, it took significant work (and a more capable init system) to support non-root X.

about 4 months ago
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Author Charles Stross: Is Amazon a Malignant Monopoly, Or Just Plain Evil?

ustolemyname Alternative Summary (405 comments)

The author's intentions could be summarized as, "Does this false dichotomy make me look smart?"

about 6 months ago
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On MetaFilter Being Penalized By Google

ustolemyname Re:good quality (108 comments)

1) This actually shows how ugly web design loses popularity!.

For people who are two lazy to follow the above link: the thought, "Beta isn't so bad." crossed my mind when I saw their page.

about 6 months ago
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Heartbleed Sparks 'Responsible' Disclosure Debate

ustolemyname Re:Blame Game. (188 comments)

Or a random guy blew up something, why didn't the CIA/NSA/FBI know that he was doing this...

If those organizations are going to continue receiving more money, more privilege, and less oversight in the name of protecting us from terrorists, then they deserve blame when they have nothing to show for what they have taken from us.

about 7 months ago

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Apple Clames to have open-sourced webkit

ustolemyname ustolemyname writes  |  more than 3 years ago

ustolemyname (1301665) writes "Remember KHTML, from which Apple forked webkit?

For the ars liveblog at 1153 PST,
"beyond this, we took Apple's Safari engine and open sourced it, and it's the basis of all web browsing on Android"

What the FUCK do they mean they open sourced webkit? They forked an open source project (khtml), which was licensed under the LGPL, and then claim to be the ones who open sourced it? Bastards seem to be caught in their own RDF. Furthermore, Google, Nokia, Samsung etc have been contributing for quite a while, as well as the KDE Project (who ARE the creators.)

Facts from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebKit"

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