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Linus Torvalds: "GCC 4.9.0 Seems To Be Terminally Broken"

walshy007 Re:GCC is Open Source (728 comments)

If I have a consistent set of conditions that set off the fault, it usually takes me a couple hours to make a fix. Usually it's only some small oss project though, the more popular ones tend to have their stuff a little better in order.

3 days ago
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Linus Torvalds: "GCC 4.9.0 Seems To Be Terminally Broken"

walshy007 Re:I know you're trying to be funny, but... (728 comments)

When you are as famous as linus, every time you swear at code you're likely to get media attention. So I don't think it is as prevalent as you may think it is.

I certainly know that if there a media circus every time I swore it would be a lot more frequently than what we've heard from linus.

4 days ago
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Linus Torvalds: "GCC 4.9.0 Seems To Be Terminally Broken"

walshy007 Re:I know you're trying to be funny, but... (728 comments)

From linus at a prior time

Oh, I'll be polite when it's called for. But when people who know better send me crap, I'll curse at them. I suspect you'll notice me cursing *way* more at top developers than random people on the list. I expect more from them, and conversely I'll be a lot more upset when they do something that I really think was not great. For example, my latest cursing explosion was for the x86 maintainers, and it comes from the fact that I *know* they know to do better. The x86 tip pulls have generally been through way more testing than most other pulls I get (not just compiling, but even booting randconfigs etc). So when an x86 pull request comes in that clearly missed that expected level of quality, I go to town. Similarly, you will see fireworks if some long-term maintainer makes excuses for breaking user space etc. That will make me go into incoherent rages. The "polite Linus" example that you point to? That was a maintainer asking for direction for when things went wrong and *before* sending me something dubious. Of course I'm polite then. Sarah, I don't have Tourettes syndrome. You seem to think that my cursing is uncontrolled and random. I argue that it has causes. Big difference.

Yes. And I do it partly (mostly) because it's who I am, and partly because I honestly despise being subtle or "nice". The fact is, people need to know what my position on things are. And I can't just say "please don't do that", because people won't listen. I say "On the internet, nobody can hear you being subtle," and I mean it. And I definitely am not willing to string people along, either. I've had that happen too—not telling people clearly enough that I don't like their approach, they go on to re-architect something, and get really upset when I am then not willing to take their work. Sarah, first off, I don't have that many tools at hand. Secondly, I simply don't believe in being polite or politically correct. And you can point at all those cultural factors where some cultures are not happy with confrontation (and feel free to make it about gender too—I think that's almost entirely cultural too). And please bring up "cultural sensitivity" while at it. And I'll give you back that same "cultural sensitivity". Please be sensitive to _my_ culture too.

In effect you are whining that calling a crap code submission crap is not professional. Linus is a very pragmatic and practical man. That so many people want everything to go smoothly and politely even when shitty things are submitted/done reflects poorly on that "everyone is a winner" kind of culture that propagates that mentality.

We should not prioritize peoples feelings over code quality. If something horribly break things that we've known for a while and know they are capable of better, we should be able to tell people that that was crap and we expect more of them without them whinging to the political correctness police yelling "abuse".

This mentality seems to keep on spreading amongst the new generations, and I fear for what the software development industry will look like in fifty years with all of the pragmatic people thrown out by those more concerned of peoples feelings.

4 days ago
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Linus Torvalds: "GCC 4.9.0 Seems To Be Terminally Broken"

walshy007 Re:I know you're trying to be funny, but... (728 comments)

From a prior discussion from linus.

Oh, I'll be polite when it's called for. But when people who know better send me crap, I'll curse at them. I suspect you'll notice me cursing *way* more at top developers than random people on the list. I expect more from them, and conversely I'll be a lot more upset when they do something that I really think was not great. For example, my latest cursing explosion was for the x86 maintainers, and it comes from the fact that I *know* they know to do better. The x86 tip pulls have generally been through way more testing than most other pulls I get (not just compiling, but even booting randconfigs etc). So when an x86 pull request comes in that clearly missed that expected level of quality, I go to town. Similarly, you will see fireworks if some long-term maintainer makes excuses for breaking user space etc. That will make me go into incoherent rages. The "polite Linus" example that you point to? That was a maintainer asking for direction for when things went wrong and *before* sending me something dubious. Of course I'm polite then. Sarah, I don't have Tourettes syndrome. You seem to think that my cursing is uncontrolled and random. I argue that it has causes. Big difference.

Yes. And I do it partly (mostly) because it's who I am, and partly because I honestly despise being subtle or "nice". The fact is, people need to know what my position on things are. And I can't just say "please don't do that", because people won't listen. I say "On the internet, nobody can hear you being subtle," and I mean it. And I definitely am not willing to string people along, either. I've had that happen too—not telling people clearly enough that I don't like their approach, they go on to re-architect something, and get really upset when I am then not willing to take their work. Sarah, first off, I don't have that many tools at hand. Secondly, I simply don't believe in being polite or politically correct. And you can point at all those cultural factors where some cultures are not happy with confrontation (and feel free to make it about gender too—I think that's almost entirely cultural too). And please bring up "cultural sensitivity" while at it. And I'll give you back that same "cultural sensitivity". Please be sensitive to _my_ culture too.

some people don't believe in going "oh I'm sorry dear, you are an awesome sugar plum fairy but your performance in this little area was below expectations, especially when it is quite clear said person should know far better given their position of responsibility.

He is clear, to the point, and gets things done.

This is not abuse, this is quite clearly saying that it is screwed, and how it is screwed. It is productive conversation.

All of linus' tirades are followed by an in-depth message detailing in what way they are wrong, being direct and to the point is his style, which he is entitled to.

If calling for standards of quality in a very direct way is abuse.. well.. start a new kernel where you accept any old tripe and see how it goes? And only interact/depend on with projects who have a similar standard and means of management.

Linus is a very pragmatic, practical engineer. Don't let feelings get in the way of practical needs people. His style works far better than most.

4 days ago
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U.S. Supreme Court Upholds Religious Objections To Contraception

walshy007 Re:Murder, for example (1330 comments)

Nah, I'm just not under the illusion that we are special in any way. The universe doesn't give a shit about whether we survive or not, that we often want to is simply a personal bias, not an inherent truth, and those personal biases can vary..

Whether we survive or not is just a thing that happens, it's not inherently "right" or "wrong". No matter what happens to us the universe keeps turning, doing it's thing.

Perhaps the goal of preventing human extinction is the one arbitrary priority, the one "unicorn in the garden" [orain.org], as a starting point to make atheism practical.

You don't need that assumption to make atheism practical. Atheism is practical because "god" is not a falsifiable concept, this doesn't make it wrong, but it puts it in the realm of other things of that realm like the tooth fairy and santa. Things that even if they so happened by some freaky coincidence to be right there is no possible way to have evidence of it because of the lack of ability of the conjecture to be tested.

Critical rationalism allows atheism to function. Not in a hard "there is no god, for sure" stance, but in the "there is no reason, and can be no reason to prefer the conjecture that there is a god, so I'm going to totally ignore it like all other untestable things" sense.

about three weeks ago
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U.S. Supreme Court Upholds Religious Objections To Contraception

walshy007 Re:Murder, for example (1330 comments)

add the axiom "Humankind ought to continue to exist."

Why? what justification do you have for this?

If you think this goal isn't right, feel free to remove yourself.

Just because someone doesn't think that it is an inherent truth that it is "right" that all people should continue to exist doesn't mean they think that people should not exist

Otherwise, you can continue by answering questions like this: Does the benefit to humankind of not living in fear of being murdered outweigh the benefit to humankind of having the freedom to murder someone?

What people consider to be a benefit or detriment depends entirely on their desired outcomes and priorities, which can be arbitrary. When what is "benefit" is arbitrary so too can be your morals if what is of benefit is your guiding light.

about three weeks ago
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U.S. Supreme Court Upholds Religious Objections To Contraception

walshy007 Re:Logic itself is a human construct (1330 comments)

The main problem I see with people who talk about "morals derived from logic", comes from people not realizing that it all comes down to their own biases and their own preferences.

Sure, the system you've devised might be a reasonable and logical way to achieve the goals you intend.. but why do you have those goals? why are those goals "right"?

It all comes down to an a priori justification of their morals in the end. They just haven't recursively analyzed their own morals enough to realize it yet.

When all morals are effectively arbitrary (as the priorities and values that influence them can be) it is hard to say they are defined by "logic".

about three weeks ago
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U.S. Supreme Court Upholds Religious Objections To Contraception

walshy007 Re:The central tenet of atheism (1330 comments)

Not necessarily. If you're a secular moral relativist you don't think there is any kind of absolute moral truths etc.

Imho, morals are a human construct, there are no morals as inherent properties of the universe, this is generally described as moral nihilism.

about a month ago
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U.S. Supreme Court Upholds Religious Objections To Contraception

walshy007 Re:Distinct DNA (1330 comments)

The question is, and or at least definitely should be, are you doing harm to something that can suffer? here's the key issue: Does it have a nervous system, and does that nervous system couple to something sophisticated enough to convert those signals into suffering?

Aside from our own personal biases that lend us toward favouring our own systems, how would you define suffering?

If it is reacting to stimuli that causes it harm, plants, vegetables and many forms of life do that. If you try to not eat anything of that nature you'll quickly find yourself starving.

Why should only harm that can be applied to us or things like us be considered harm?

about a month ago
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U.S. Supreme Court Upholds Religious Objections To Contraception

walshy007 Re:Distinct DNA (1330 comments)

They don't care because it happened naturally without interference. Much like how if an old man dies in his sleep naturally people don't tend to care, but if he dies in his sleep with a pillow shoved over his face by a party conscious of what it will do, people do care.

Like how you don't see PETA activists trying to fight off all the violent animal deaths that happen in nature.. because there was no interference.

about a month ago
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U.S. Supreme Court Upholds Religious Objections To Contraception

walshy007 Re:A win for freedom (1330 comments)

However, if I needed "little blue pills" and was employed at Hobby Lobby, they would be more than happy to provide them to me. They also see nothing wrong in investing in the contraception companies in their 401K. Apparently, making money off of "godless abortion pills" is perfectly fine religiously.

Wouldn't the abortion pills they're against in this case not count as contraception? I mean.. isn't the point of contraception to stop conception?

The only reason I can see to try to avoid the name "abortion pill" is the social stigma, but that can be worked on. (imitation of kang's voice) "Abortions for all!"

about a month ago
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A Quadcopter Development Platform (Video)

walshy007 Why the quadcopter obsession? (30 comments)

Why not just build an RC helicopter sizable enough to do what you want?

You want automation? It can be done on an rc helicopter too.

I just don't see the point of having a bunch of weak motors as opposed to a single strong one with control of thrust via cyclic and collective pitch controls on the blades.

about a month and a half ago
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Driverless Cars Could Cripple Law Enforcement Budgets

walshy007 Re:Just Tack on a Fee (626 comments)

The energy required to transport food from farms to houses is at least an order of magnitude less than the energy consumed by an automobile for commuting. Possibly two orders of magnitude. So the only way that growing your own food at home saves energy is if you don't drive.

We have a winner! When you have local production and consumption you tend to not have to drive so much. Also, trucks used for transportation of goods cause pretty much all non-weather related road wear, causing a lot of savings on road maintenance to boot.

That's how the right wing rationalizes their own flavor of totalitarianism, but I don't want to live in a country where the government doesn't let us live the way we want.

I don't see how "we would like this area to be designated for free range humans please" is totalitarian. Unless you consider no smoking zones, no parking areas, speed limits, and all zoning laws at all totalitarian.

Utter chaos isn't necessarily the best solution.

about 2 months ago
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Driverless Cars Could Cripple Law Enforcement Budgets

walshy007 Re:Just Tack on a Fee (626 comments)

This is from some of the road regulation near me.

Single axle 4 tyres 9.0 tonne

The four tyres is the two each side you typically see on trucks, so 9 tonnes per axel.

Typical cars weigh 1-2.6 tonnes in total with two axels. so 0.5-1.3 tonnes per axel.

about 2 months ago
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Driverless Cars Could Cripple Law Enforcement Budgets

walshy007 Re:Just Tack on a Fee (626 comments)

If you want to make the land as efficient as possible in growing crops, you need to minimize roof and asphalt area and maximize cropland area.

You're forgetting the labor required to work the farm, unless you're talking about modern farming practices that are very petrol dependent.. in which case so much for 'sustainable'.

If every family household had a few acres, we could all effectively grow our own crops. While not all of our needs would be met, we would reduce our dependence on items transported from far away by a fair margin, reducing energy consumption from transportation.

The small'ish houses rooftops can be lined with solar panels, so the solar energy from that portion can be used also.

Unfortunately, the right wing opposes this, and they use density and height limits to achieve their goal of preventing people from living sustainably.

They use density and height limits to stop people having to live like caged chickens. To some people that is life, others would prefer to be free range humans.

about 2 months ago
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Driverless Cars Could Cripple Law Enforcement Budgets

walshy007 Re:Just Tack on a Fee (626 comments)

Road damage rises steeply with axle weight, and is estimated "as a rule of thumb... for reasonably strong pavement surfaces" to be proportional to the fourth power of the axle weight. This means that doubling the axle weight will increase road damage (2x2x2x2)=16 times.

about 2 months ago
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Driverless Cars Could Cripple Law Enforcement Budgets

walshy007 Re:Just Tack on a Fee (626 comments)

That's the opposite of the right wing, which supports road and fuel subsidies and zoning and density limits [baconsrebellion.com] that force people to drive more.

Or.. you know.. get a job closer to home?

I'm not sure having thousands of people crammed per square mile is a great idea.

I think less dense housing enables people to actually do things with land, like, I don't know, grow a small set of crops?

Local production and consumption is a win on energy losses through transportation.

City people often forget that it is the country that feeds them. When you are that sheltered from production you tend to think food just magically appears in shopping centres. Sure, you know that at some point that it came from a farm, but it doesn't cross peoples minds.

Shoving more and more people into dense cities is not sustainable. It seems to be a goal of the left to see how many people we can support even at cost of quality of life. Screw that, Let people live in open areas, and let them have some level of being able to do what they want with their land.

about 2 months ago
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Unlock Your Android Phone With Open Source Wearable NFC

walshy007 Re:Is It Objectification...? (81 comments)

(going straight to the person's value as a sexual object is the definition of objectification)

Actually it has to do with their sense of agency. Agents can affect their surroundings, whereas things simply happen to objects, they are victims unable to affect anything.

In this sense a lot of people self labelling themselves as feminists are objectifying women a lot at times.

about 2 months ago
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Unlock Your Android Phone With Open Source Wearable NFC

walshy007 Re:Do not want (81 comments)

I think slashdot just has higher standards of evidence of racism etc than some other places.

For it to be true it has to be blatent and with very little possibility of error "you know what I mean" doesn't constitute that. There are plenty of other interpretations.

You have to try to not assume malice (or even ignorance) in these things. Come to them from the best possible light they could be from your perspective and goals.

Using a certain style of language can associate people with things that they shouldn't necessarily be associated with. Best to not assume ill will or malice

I think a fair portion of slashdot comes from a pragmatic line of thinking, nobody gives a crap about what race or sex a person is so long as the job gets done and well at that.

We've all encountered oversensitive people before and it can be a right pain in the ass and loss of efficiency trying to deal with them.. there's a tendency to not like enforced inefficiency from above. Things that affirmative action programs and the like can enforce.

about 2 months ago
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Adobe Creative Cloud Is Back

walshy007 Re: Only Creative Cloud? (74 comments)

I don't think that many people who use photoshop require the entirety of it's functionality.

It's like microsoft word vs openoffice, there are some fairly commonly required features that are catered for that handle the overwhelming majority of the population, but each person has their own little outlier function that only word handles.

gimp is becoming viable for more types of work by the day, it may not ever do everything photoshop does, but it doesn't have to. All it has to do is enough to "get the job done" for a decent subset of people.

about 2 months ago

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Will Redhat's biggest future competitor be Vmware?

walshy007 walshy007 writes  |  more than 2 years ago

walshy007 (906710) writes "Redhat CEO Jim Whitehurst believes that in five years time, vmware will be their most likely competitor.

A view that stems from seeing "Platform as a Service" (cloud computing) heavily influencing the future of business. Intent on becoming the primary data abstractor for x86 platforms by pushing kvm adoption in the enterprise."

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Xbox360 reset hack yields unsigned code execution

walshy007 walshy007 writes  |  more than 2 years ago

walshy007 (906710) writes "A new exploit has been shown which allows unsigned code execution on the xbox360 on all current models. It functions by pulsing the reset pin at a critical time during the checksumming/crypto boot process.

The exploit enables the running of Xell a boot loader which facilitates the running of linux amongst other programs."

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Jack VS PulseAudio

walshy007 walshy007 writes  |  more than 3 years ago

walshy007 (906710) writes "A PulseAudio developer goes over the design differences between the pulse and jack audio servers. Key arguments for pulseaudio (although also work against it) are "a system should always run with the highest latency latency possible, but the lowest latency necessary." "A consumer system needs to simplify the view on the hardware, hide the its complexity: hide redundant mixer elements" — who defines what is redundant?, It concludes that the potential cpu time savings from lack of context switching are worth the up to two seconds(!) latency that can be put in the system. The article brings up the question, did pulseaudio really come into existence to shave a fraction of a percent off cpu usage for audio? and at the sacrifice of being unable to pipe audio streams as easily and lack of a global SMPTE code."
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Jack VS PulseAudio

walshy007 walshy007 writes  |  more than 3 years ago

walshy007 (906710) writes "A PulseAudio developer goes over the design differences between the pulse and jack audio servers. Key arguments for pulseaudio (although also work against it) are "a system should always run with the highest latency latency possible, but the lowest latency necessary." "A consumer system needs to simplify the view on the hardware, hide the its complexity: hide redundant mixer elements" — who defines what is redundant?, It concludes that the potential cpu time savings from lack of context switching are worth the up to two seconds(!) latency that can be put in the system. The article brings up the question, did pulseaudio really come into existence to shave 1% off cpu usage for audio? and at the sacrifice of being unable to pipe audio streams as easily and lack of a global SMPTE code."
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Miyamoto 'Banned' from talking about hobbies

walshy007 walshy007 writes  |  more than 5 years ago

walshy007 (906710) writes "After Shigeru Miyamoto developed a love of puzzles, the "brain-training" software that has proved to be an international "killer application" on the Nintendo DS console was born. He became interested in taking more exercise, and Wii Fit was created. He took up music lessons, and Wii Music was the result. Now, according to sources at Nintendo, the games designer has been banned by the company from speaking publicly about his hobbies."
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linux kernel numbering changes

walshy007 walshy007 writes  |  about 6 years ago

walshy007 (906710) writes "In a recent thread it was asked what it would take for an "unstable" 2.7 development tree to be created, to which Linus noted replied:

"Nothing. I'm not going back to the old model. The new model is so much better that it's not even worth entertaining as a theory to go back. That said, I _am_ considering changing just the numbering. Not to go back to the old model, but because a constantly increasing minor number leads to big numbers. I'm not all that thrilled with '26' as a number: it's hard to remember. I think the time-based releases (ie the '2 weeks of merge window until -rc1, followed by roughly two months of stabilization') has been so successful that I'd prefer to skip the version numbering model too. We don't do releases based on 'features' any more, so why should we do version _numbering_ based on 'features'?""

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Net censorship to be increased in australia

walshy007 walshy007 writes  |  more than 6 years ago

walshy007 (906710) writes "The Australian communications minister has put a bill forward to include "terrorism and cyber-crime" on it's blacklists as pornographic material is currently. "Under the proposed amendment, Federal Police will inform ACMA of websites to be blocked, and the agency must then notify the relevant internet service providers. ISPs will be required to "take reasonable steps" to prevent users accessing the website or content." "Without warning, the Government, through Senator Coonan, is proposing to provide Federal Police with powers to censor the internet,""
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