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Black Swan Author: Genetically Modified Organisms Risk Global Ruin

yndrd1984 Re:Why would I assume it has been settled? (418 comments)

And then the one harmful change of these huge number of all sorts of random mutations becomes predominant in 90% of the wheat out there? Yeah, I don't see that happening as easily as when the GMO company selects the gene they want and put it into 100% of the seeds.

One of the major goals of modern breeding is to get extremely homogeneous (i.e. inbred) populations. So if a dangerous trait was caused by a gene that was being selected for, or was near a gene that was being selected for, then becoming 'fixed' in the new variety would be expected, because that' s the goal. The major difference from a GMO variety being that (at least for the time being) nobody's doing a complete sequencing to find those genes, and then researching them each for potential problems. For example, Golden Delicious apple trees all descend from one plant, often grafted clones of the original - and if the yellow color happened to be toxic...

And the only reason that 90% of US corn and soy ended up having the same glyphosate resistant gene was because of a lack of competition and the fact that it was very, very useful. Now that other companies are using GMO techniques, Roundup resistance has become an issue, and future developments are likely to have smaller benefits or more targeted uses, it's less likely for something similar to happen.

3 days ago
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Black Swan Author: Genetically Modified Organisms Risk Global Ruin

yndrd1984 Re:Nonsense. Again. (418 comments)

So you're admitting that you have no actual response. Fine by me.

4 days ago
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Black Swan Author: Genetically Modified Organisms Risk Global Ruin

yndrd1984 Re:I'm all in favor... (418 comments)

On top of that, glyphosphate is one of the least toxic herbacides out there that generally breaks down relatively quickly in the environment.

Sorry, that's just not true. Higher levels of it have been found in the internal organs of chronically ill people.

1. Which is irrelevant to the point that it breaks down faster than most other herbicides.
2. It's also irrelevant to the fact that it really is less toxic as well.
2. Chronically ill people have higher concentrations of lots of things, because they excrete it more slowly. So again, irrelevant.

4 days ago
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Black Swan Author: Genetically Modified Organisms Risk Global Ruin

yndrd1984 Re:Everybody hates my opinion on this. (418 comments)

We have many, many negative ecological/human impacts that have no known cause, that correspond roughly to the time that various kinds of GMO techniques and species came into use.

By that logic, GMOs cause people to be more accepting of gay marriage. We should do research to find the causes of these things, of course, but there's no reason to pick on whatever random tech/group/idea has an image problem at the moment.

the GMO companies have nicely prevented that, by making it impossible to determine precisely when and where different populations were exposed to different GMO species or techniques.

First, we have the US and Europe.
Second, it isn't any different than any other industry - what was the sulfur content of the oil used to make your keyboard?

If the GMO companies believed their products were safe, they would have proudly labeled them.

First, Monsanto et al do 'proudly' label their products, advertise them, even explain in great detail what all their varieties do - but you aren't buying large quantities of seed, so you don't see it.
Second, as long as people are freaking out about GMOs keeping quiet makes more sense than making yourself a target for anti-GMO activists. You really think it makes financial sense to be the only company with a 'Frankenfood' sticker on their products?

But if I could put a question to you - why this tech? Out of the thousand of fairly new techs that go into billions of products, why this one and not, say, cell phone radiation, hormone analogues in plastic, ...?

4 days ago
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Black Swan Author: Genetically Modified Organisms Risk Global Ruin

yndrd1984 Re:Why would I assume it has been settled? (418 comments)

I am worried that we will have some low level carcinogen accidentally get incorporated in our GMO wheat supply, and voila we have half the world's population getting stomach cancer decades later.

Why aren't you worried about the same thing happening with "conventionally bred" varieties? Running seed through an X-ray machine will cause huge numbers of all sorts of random mutations (as opposed to a single, controlled insertion), and they don't get tested nearly as thoroughly.

4 days ago
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Black Swan Author: Genetically Modified Organisms Risk Global Ruin

yndrd1984 Re:Nonsense. Again. (418 comments)

Modern gene splicing is mostly about ensuring farmers must buy seeds annually because they can't simply take the seeds from their crops and replant them

No. For existing varieties it's about lowering costs to the farmer.

they are mostly designed to produce only sterile seeds or worse to produce sterile offspring 2-3 generations down the line

That's from being hybridized, not from being genetically modified.

they are designed to exploit those mechanisms to make competing heirloom strains of crops sterile and gain market share

Citation needed.

4 days ago
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New Research Suggests Cancer May Be an Intrinsic Property of Cells

yndrd1984 Re:So what they need, then... (185 comments)

it is remarkably difficult to refute the latter by any means

Of course it is, it's based on inverting the burden of proof. It's trivial (and absurd) to invent something vague and non-detectable, and then shout "You haven't disproved it!!!" to anyone who isn't convinced.

You may as well demand an explanation of broken legs impeding movement if one takes the position that motor movement is controlled by the brain.

That's a perfectly valid request if you have no prior understanding of biology - e.g. it wasn't believed by ancient cultures. We had to do actual research to demonstrate the connection.

the brain is not synonymous with or exhaustive in explaining consciousness

Ok. Exactly what part of consciousness can't possibly be explained by the brain? It may seem rude to put the bar that high, but when the only evidence for X is that "nothing else can explain it", you have to be pretty certain that nothing else can explain it.

about 2 months ago
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More Quantum Strangeness: Particles Separated From Their Properties

yndrd1984 Re:Limits of Measurement (144 comments)

Which is to say, the statement was entirely correct. It's curious how people who are enamored with one interpretation see neutrally stated clarification as desperation.

about 2 months ago
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More Quantum Strangeness: Particles Separated From Their Properties

yndrd1984 Re:Limits of Measurement (144 comments)

Technically, Bell's Theorem only rules out local hidden variables.

about 3 months ago
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'Curiosity' Lead Engineer Suggests Printing Humans On Other Planets

yndrd1984 Re:Yeah, no... (323 comments)

What good does it do me that there is a copy of me with my memories on a different planet? If my consciousness does not go to the copy (and how would it?), it is rather pointless as well as creepy.

At the very least the same benefits as sending a machine (knowledge, pride) or other people (knowing that the future of mankind is more secure, etc).

And from a philosophical perspective it doesn't make sense to think of one of your future selves differently than the other if they're 100% physically identical. i.e. you'd have the exact same situation if you were magically taken to the other planet and a duplicate was made here.

about 5 months ago
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Misogyny, Entitlement, and Nerds

yndrd1984 Re:What the f*$# is wrong with us? (1198 comments)

Western society has only allowed women to own property ... relatively recently

Right, when you can't send women to prison (often hard-labor) for not paying taxes or debts or sue them for violating a contract it wouldn't make sense to let them get into a position where they could abuse that power. Horrible and stupid, yes, but not exactly one-sided.

Oddly enough, in several countries women gained the right to control their own money while men were still responsible for the taxes on that income. This lead to men serving prison time for not paying taxes on money that they had no legal right to access.

about 5 months ago
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Misogyny, Entitlement, and Nerds

yndrd1984 Re:What the f*$# is wrong with us? (1198 comments)

"In the 19th century women in the US and Europe regularly had clitoridectomy operations as it was seen as a way of stopping the evils of masturbation-induced madness.

Quite right. But it's hard to call that misogyny when those same people pushed for circumcision and anti-erection devices for the exact same reason, as well as chastity belts, ultra-low-fiber diets, and a whole host of useless, freakish "treatments" for all sorts of non-illnesses. It's even harder to call it misogyny when clitoridectomy (and everything similar) is illegal nearly everywhere (barring rare cancer cases, etc), while circumcision is still not only legal but frequently preformed on healthy children in the US.

about 5 months ago
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NASA's Plan To Block Light From Distant Stars To Find 'Earth 2.0'

yndrd1984 Re:Aperture Science (92 comments)

Objects whiz by at tens of thousands of miles per hour. By the time you focus the telescope, will it and shade already be out of sync?

The shade only has to cover the star, not aim directly at the plant. So this is more like blocking out the sun to see a baseball than tracking a baseball with a camera.

about 5 months ago
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"Smart" Gun Seller Gets the Wrong Kind of Online Attention

yndrd1984 Re:Gun nuts (1374 comments)

If an ordinance read: "A pack of rabid wolves being situated near our town, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.", would that imply that having rabies is a prerequisite to having this right?

Why do you think that "militia" and "the people" are referring to the same thing? And why does "the people" in every other amendment always mean "people in general" - why does this mention need to be interpreted differently?

about 6 months ago
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Getting Misogyny, Racism and Homophobia Out of Gaming

yndrd1984 Re: Disable player chat (704 comments)

Flip it around ; the implication is that women aren't expected to pay because they aren't able to, because they are either incapable of earning money, or not entitled to hold their own finances.

Sure. The male-only draft insults women's ability to fight, and the longer prison sentences men get implies that women aren't mature enough to handle themselves responsibly. Those poor women!

But if we're going that route, why not say that the wage gap (at least whatever part of it might be real) is an insult to men. It implies (and acts as a justification for) the idea that finances are the man's responsibility. It's a cruel reminder of the bad old days when men were thrown into debtor's prison because of debts that their wife owed - how cruel is that?

about 7 months ago
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Getting Misogyny, Racism and Homophobia Out of Gaming

yndrd1984 Re: Disable player chat (704 comments)

Homeless women are typically in a LOT more danger than men on the street.

Is that an actual fact, or just something that feels right to you because of your world view?

Because having said all of the above, men and women are NOT the same. They do have SOME differences!?

Ah, modern feminism. Equality when I want it, not when I don't.

about 7 months ago
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Getting Misogyny, Racism and Homophobia Out of Gaming

yndrd1984 Re: Disable player chat (704 comments)

People are so used to women getting stuff for free that it's surprising when a woman actually pays for something - and that's one of your top three examples of misogyny?

i.e. One of your bigger complaints in life is: "Other people are expected to support me, and never vice-versa. It's so unfair!"

Thanks, I needed a laugh.

about 7 months ago
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Why a Cure For Cancer Is So Elusive

yndrd1984 Re:Cancer isn't one disease (366 comments)

Cancer can absolutely be categorized as one disease. As you say, it's the pathological replication of a cell.

Viral infection can absolutely be categorized as one disease. As you say, it's the pathological replication of viruses.

Sorry, HIV isn't that much like the common cold, and skin cancer isn't that much like leukemia. Clarifying that to laypeople is probably a good idea.

The meme that "cancer is a whole spectrum of diseases" is just that, a meme.

Just like "human beings are primates" and "Pluto isn't a planet".

Study any topic deeply enough and almost any label will come up short. That doesn't mean the label is wrong.

It also doesn't mean the different labeling schemes aren't better than others for certain uses.

about 10 months ago
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GitHub Takes Down Satirical 'C Plus Equality' Language

yndrd1984 Re: The worst thing... (575 comments)

That's why they make more money than men

The amount of earned income of women who work full-time is smaller than that of similarly situated men. On the other hand, for every choice a person can make between higher income and some other benefit (flexible hours, commute time, safety, stress, physical effort, etc) men are more likely to chose the extra money than women are. This alone eliminates at least 2/3 of the difference. And just as importantly, almost every type of unearned income - from dating and spouses supporting each other and inheritance to government programs and charities - gives more money to women. The net effect is that women make 80% of consumer choices and own 60% of all the wealth in the US. While I do believe that there are workplace issues women face that need to be resolved, I don't think our income distribution is as bizarrely one-sided as some people want to believe.

hold 90% or more of the political positions, and head up most corporations

In a similar vein, why would we want to? Sure, some women really want to do that, and they really should be able to, but why do the hard work of fighting to the top when you can just marry a coworker and pressure him to do it? And politically, women are the majority of voters, anything that gets labeled as a "women's issue" gets extra attention, and Joe Biden will happily go on TV and shame men into helping women. When's the last time you heard a politician talk about helping men?

dictate what men must look like with fashion magazines

Why would women care about pressuring men to look a particular way if we can get them to act in a particular way? If our society can pressure men to do most of the dirty, dangerous, and uncomfortable work, why worry about their fashion? Think about that next time you're shoveling a driveway, changing a tire, or carrying something heavy to help out a member of the "weaker" sex.

about a year ago
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Dial 00000000 To Blow Up the World

yndrd1984 Re:Illusion shattered (306 comments)

""00000000 is just as random as any other code""
"Except that you can lean on the button pad and enter it by mistake. Bye Bye world."
Or a short develops - in a button that's used underground or on a submarine.

about 10 months ago

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