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Is the Tesla Model 3 Actually Going To Cost $50,000?

zwede Re:Why dilute the brand? (389 comments)

They SHOULD compete with supercars. No one, ultimately, is going to be able to compete with Ford or GM if they ever actually decide to make electric cars with the same seriousness they devote to building trucks.

That's the whole point of Tesla. Musk has stated several times that they want to push the big guys (Toyota, GM, Ford, VW etc) into building real electric cars, not just compliance vehicles. Tesla doesn't want to be the only on the market, they want to be one of many. That's why they opened up their patents.

5 days ago

Is the Tesla Model 3 Actually Going To Cost $50,000?

zwede Re:What they dont tell you ... (389 comments)

First show a proper cart of how the batteries charge capacity decreases with time.

Miles driven is a much better metric as charge/discharge cycles ages a battery more than age.

Such a chart was done on the Tesla forum where owners reported miles and the max range after a charge. The chart showed a very small deterioration with well over 90% capacity remaining after 100K miles (the highest mileage reported).

Second what proportion of the cars cost is the batteried which will have to be replaces in N years time

We haven't found the limit for Tesla batteries yet. How will we know what a replacement battery will cost in X years where X could be upwards of 15-20 years?

What is the 'carbon' footprint of the vehicles manufacture and how does that compare to the typical combustion engine cars manufacture and lifetime use.

All aluminum (easily recyclable) car with very few moving parts and no tail pipe emissions vs just about anything else... I'd think it compares very favorably.

5 days ago

Is the Tesla Model 3 Actually Going To Cost $50,000?

zwede Re:More importantly (389 comments)

The charge/discharge cycles is what wears a battery much more than age (although age also has some effect).

The highest mileage Tesla Model S I've heard about has a bit over 100K miles on it. The owner reports it's on the original battery and has only lost a few percent of range (battery capacity) compared to new.

5 days ago

Is the Tesla Model 3 Actually Going To Cost $50,000?

zwede Re:Who to believe? (389 comments)

By that logic, Windows 8 should see Bill Gates hanged...

Finally someone uses the correct term. Thank you!

5 days ago

Is the Tesla Model 3 Actually Going To Cost $50,000?

zwede Re:Still pretty affordable (389 comments)

Can the Tesla or Volt be connected to the charger and configured to only charge during a preset time period?

Tesla has a schedule function where you can set the time it will start charging. It's also geo-fenced (GPS), so the schedule is for a specific location. Pretty neat in that if you plug it in at home it won't start charging until your preset time, but plug it in somewhere else and it starts right away.

5 days ago

Is the Tesla Model 3 Actually Going To Cost $50,000?

zwede Re:Still pretty affordable (389 comments)

Texas forbid someone in Texas want to drive one.

That who and the what now?

I live in Texas. I bought my Tesla in Texas. Thanks to the dealer lobby the paperwork says I bought it from California, but in reality the dealership bribes accomplished nothing except a slight tweak to a piece of paper. My car was delivered to the Dallas Tesla Service Center where I picked it up. Oh, and I had a California instead of Texas temp tag on it until I got my real Texas plates.

All in all the Texas "Tesla ban" is a non-event.

5 days ago

Tesla's Next Auto-Dealer Battleground State: Georgia

zwede NOT stagnant (157 comments)

Tesla had a 2 month backlog (time from order to delivery of a car) of 2 months early this year. In the spring it grew to 3 months. Early summer they upped production to address this, but backlog grew to 4 months. Tesla is building more cars than ever, yet the wait keeps increasing.

"Stagnant" my ass.

All this for a car that was introduced almost 2 years ago and has had virtually no updates during this time. Shows how far ahead of other manufacturers they were.

about three weeks ago

Reno Selected For Tesla Motors Battery Factory

zwede Re:Well that's a relief (157 comments)

...and watching the states trip over each other to "give away the store" in luring Tesla is just sad, and especially unfair to regular companies who don't have this kind of pull and will never get such sweetheart deals.

This is standard practice for any large business. Texas just gave Toyota tens of millions of dollars in incentives to get them to move their headquarters here.

about three weeks ago

Ask Slashdot: Linux-Friendly Desktop x86 Motherboard Manufacturers?

zwede Gigabyte (294 comments)

I've used Gigabyte MBs exclusively for 15 years and I only run Linux. My latest MB is a Z87 with UEFI. No problems with Linux. Boots to usable desktop in under 10 seconds. No problems booting Linux off a USB stick either. During these 15 years I've never had a Gigabyte MB fail.

about three weeks ago

Ask Slashdot: How Dead Is Antivirus, Exactly?

zwede Re:Use Linux (331 comments)

Posting to undo accidental mod.
It can be debated WHY Linux has almost no viruses, but the fact remains that it is much less impacted. Since you don't need AV on Linux it tends to run faster.

about a month ago

Tesla Aims For $30,000 Price, 2017 Launch For Model E

zwede Re:In Germany, I will not buy an electrical car (247 comments)

Just centralizing pollution, horrid efficiency (fossil base to movement) and further stress on power grid. An electrical car is tolerable as soon as it's operated FULLY on renewable sources, e.g. the sun AND has an acceptable range (600km at 140km/h == 86 m/h).

Has been debunked already. Even when operated on 100% coal power, the Model S produces 1/2 the pollution of a small economy gasoline car.

about 3 months ago

Tesla Aims For $30,000 Price, 2017 Launch For Model E

zwede Re:Tesla's Ugly Duckling (247 comments)

I thought Tesla had turned the corner when it comes to electric car styling. I see that thought was a bit premature.

It seems that when vehicle manufacturers cheapen up a car, the first thing they throw out is looks. I understand why attractive women are expensive, but I don't see why the same rule has to apply to cars.

Interesting comment considering no one has seen the Model E yet. Can I borrow your time machine, please?

about 3 months ago

Tesla Aims For $30,000 Price, 2017 Launch For Model E

zwede Re:Smaller? (247 comments)

Another consideration is the size reduction, 10% smaller is not a good thing for Americans. I weigh about 200lbs and because of the way the steering wheel adjusts in the model S I can't physically fit in the driver's seat. I have actually sat in the car so I think the steering wheel could be designed to tilt instead of just going in and out a few inches. The model S is not a large car to begin with, if you make things smaller still you are greatly limiting your market from the majority of Americans.

Huh? The MS has tilt and telescoping steering wheel. The MS is a big car. It doesn't look it, but the interior and trunk space is of a full-size car.

about 3 months ago

Automotive Grade Linux Released For Open Source Cars

zwede Re:No voice control? (88 comments)

Or someone pays for a license for speech to text implementations. Just because it's Linux, doesn't mean there can't be commercial software on it, commercial licenses available, etc.

This is what Tesla did. They run Linux (although it's their own, Debian based, flavor) and they licensed voice recognition (Googles, I think). It works really, really well. I have a slight accent and it still gets it right every time.

about 3 months ago

Germany's Glut of Electricity Causing Prices To Plummet

zwede Re:This just illustrates (365 comments)

solar is going to be affordable for me to install on my roof (technically it already is today, but due to HOA rules I can't have them

Have you checked with your HOA recently? TX now has a law that regulates what HOAs can demand as far as roof top solar. An HOA cannot simply say "no solar panels allowed". Instead there are guide lines in the law that the HOA will make you follow, such as the panels must follow the roof angle, no tilt panels that follow the sun, panel frames and mounts that blend into the HOA color scheme (probably they will ask for black). Stuff like that. The law isn't perfect, there are loop holes in case the HOA is run by jerks. But if you're willing to go to arbitration it is very likely you will win. I'm in Dallas and installed 20 solar panels (5kW) earlier this month. My HOA was very supportive and changed some of the rules due to my suggestions in order to make the process easier.

about 3 months ago

Are US Hybrid Sales Peaking Already?

zwede Re:I can't buy one (377 comments)

Tesla offers a "we-cover-everything-but-tires" service for $600 annually (including consumables!), and while cheaper than most vehicle services over the same period

I looked at that and thought it was really, really expensive.

I agree. I looked at the Tesla service plan and decided not to do it. Btw, if you pre-pay the service cost is less. $400-something, but still too much, IMO. What they do is rotate the tires, check alignment, replace wiper blades and cabin filter, refill washer fluid. That's about it. Every couple of years I think they also replace the brake fluid. I can do these things myself for much less than $400.

about 3 months ago

Tesla Makes Improvements To Model S

zwede Re:Automatic software updates (136 comments)

The Tesla SW update works like this:

The updates are batched by Tesla so not all cars are updated at once. In case there's a problem with the new SW, that limits the number of affected vehicles.

Once the VIN has been tagged for update, the car downloads the new SW (over 3G or WIFI if available) and stores it locally. A prompt is shown on the main screen that new SW is available. Options are "install now" or "schedule install" (midnight is pre-selected), or "do not install now".

about 3 months ago

eBay Compromised

zwede Ebay overloaded (193 comments)

Tried to change my ebay password and got this:

Page not available
Ebay is asking its users to reset their passwords due to the unauthorized access to our corporate information network. This may result in a delay of service due to the high traffic volume. We ask for your patience and that you return to eBay soon. In the meantime, please be assured that no activity can occur on your account until your password is reset.

about 4 months ago

A Look at Smart Gun Technology

zwede Re:Camera gun (765 comments)

They can put a camera on the gun today. That's what they ought to focus on. Maybe someday we'll have guns smart enough to only take disabling shots, or phasers on stun. But today, we can at least establish where a gun was pointed when it was fired,

It was pointed straight at the bullet hole.

about 4 months ago


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