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include T&D (Score:5, Informative)
Many of us in the US are charged separately for generation and transmission & distribution - to answer the question correctly you need add the two charges together and divide by kWh (many people are paying over $0.20 / kWh delivered)
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I suppose it's because the grid where I live is mostly nuclear. Most months my bill is under $110 even though I have to run the AC year round (it's mandated by the lease to prevent mold). My wife and I don't use too much power besides the AC, but cooling 1,500 sq feet uses a lot of power no matter how wel
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Some of us generate out own electricity for free, and even get paid to sell surplus back to the grid.
Comparison (Score:5, Informative)
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Yup, that stuff is pretty cheap in Montreal, kinda makes up for the year-round potholes in the streets...
I have NO idea. (Score:2)
I would have to check my parents' SCE bills. :P I do know they complain that I use more power because of my computers and other electronics. :(
Re:I have NO idea. (Score:4, Informative)
A fluorescent tube lamp is about 40W. An incandescent bulb is from 40W to 100W.
A washing machine on a warm cycle (cold cycle is much cheaper!), clothes dryer, air conditioner, hair dryer, electric heater, oven use way more electricity per second- in the order of thousand watts. If your fridge is inefficient (many old fridges aren't efficient) it may also use quite a lot of electricity.
One hour of a 1000 watt airconditioner at max uses the same amount of electricity as a desktop PC running for 5-6 hours.
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Do you mean the whole house or just my room?
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http://zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/computers.txt [zimage.com] for my detailed computer specifications. Note that I don't use my old laptops/notebooks.
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Assuming USD0.15 per kWh. 350W * 8 hours * 30 days = USD126/month.
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I do use those HLT features when PCs are not in heavy usage. I do play computer games for those video cards. The secondary PC is always on 24/7. Windows PC is on when needed (using it, playing, working, media center/HTPC, etc.).
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Now if you had an electric oven and baking cakes was your hobby, you might have to sell a few cakes to help pay the bills
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LOL. I don't cook, know how, and can't (disabled). Also, "cake is a lie". :)
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Easiest way is to just measure it. I found that my gaming rig uses about ~100-150w total when not gaming. It would spike above that when used for computationally intensive projects though.
I was able to check a kill-a-watt out from the local library and figure out where any electrical waste was. Ultimately I found very little.
No idea, doesn't matter. (Score:5, Interesting)
Flat rate, 25 euros a month. Been looking for a meter since I moved in and can't find one.
A family member works in the electricity industry in the UK. He reckoned that something like 80% of the company's costs went on installing, reading, maintaining, and billing based on metering. If they'd just be allowed to move to flat rate billing for domestic customers, everyone's bill would come down *and* the company would have more money to invest in cleaner generation. But no, they have to install smart meters and keep the price high to encourage people to be "green".
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Sorry, but your family member doesn't know what he's is talking about.
Smart meters eliminate the need for meter readers. Of course they haven't needed brakemen on railroads for 100 years. Aren't unions wonderful.
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Sorry, but your family member doesn't know what he's is talking about.
Smart meters eliminate the need for meter readers. Of course they haven't needed brakemen on railroads for 100 years. Aren't unions wonderful.
"Smart Meter" doesn't just mean "automatic meter reading" to the the utility industry, but rather implies some 2-way communication is possible. For instance, a customer could, at least in theory, scale back usage when costs were higher.
And railroads???
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From a rubber meets the road perspective 'smart meter' means 'automatic meter reading'.
What features of smart meters are mentioned in the business case used to justify the expense?
Re:No idea, doesn't matter. (Score:5, Informative)
(posted anon because I work on a Smart Grid project at a utility)
Features in addition to "automatic meter reading" include:
-Remote turn on/ shut off (huge cost savings in man hours, faster turn on & off for non-payment)
-Reporting when a house is out of power. Most of the time, we don't know who's out unless they call us. Smart Meters ping back to home base when the power's out. (Yes, there's a battery inside)
-Time of day billing. Power doesn't cost the same to generate at midnight as it does at 3pm. Why should the customer's price be fixed, when the cost isn't?
-Educating customers on high load days with a meter red light or something related, requesting them to reduce load.
-Options to have customer's air conditioner and smart appliances reduce load on high load days. This one is HUGE with public service commissions. Peak Load is a major pain for utilities. Up to 20% of a generation fleet is dedicated to meeting Peak Load demands.
-Lots of very cool updates to the infrastructure in general. There are substation & distribution upgrades, roughly equivalent to a Smart Meter, only bigger. Once the whole chain is upgraded, we'll have information like crazy about how the grid is performing- and better ways to optimize use and reduce outages.
There's many more, but this list was focused on the business case angle.
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-Time of day billing. Power doesn't cost the same to generate at midnight as it does at 3pm. Why should the customer's price be fixed, when the cost isn't?
This is something we have had at least here in Finland for decades. If you have electric heating, you usually want to pay separate rates for nighttime (10pm-7am) and daytime power. Other option is seasonal (winter vs. summer) rates. Basically, your meter has a small relay that clicks on when it gets the signal that nighttime rate is on - and at that point
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We've had that in the UK for decades too ("Economy 7"), but a Smart Meter is much more granular. AIUI, the price might (could) be different for hour or half-hour periods.
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Around here we don't have that, and I don't see any reason why we should. The cost of producing the electricity is more or less fixed, the only difference from the perspective of the utility is how much electricity they can sell to other locales and how much their grid needs to cope with.
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Because hydroelectric power costs the same amount of money whether it's morning, noon or night.
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It's hydro, and any power they don't use locally just gets exported to California. The ultimate result is that there's no particular need for them to change the rate based on the time of day.
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The grand parent obviously did not know what he was talking about. But your post regarding smart grid is interesting.
Still GP has a point. There are far too many people who don't care / don't know about their electricity bill. The electricity bill is less than 10% of their monthly income, hence they don't care. With smart grid features like time of day, seasonal or demand response load adjustment even if we can reduce their bill by 20%, It would still be too minuscule reduction for them to notice or care.
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Bingo. Another factor is "I don't want to be nagged about this shit". I certainly don't need another machine telling me "you don't want to do that, John". I can see benefits for hot water heating, under floor heating, and the like, but I'm not sure they need smart meters so much as smart timers. The whole idea of smart meters just seems too annoying and complex to me, especially if the difference is at most something like 30%.
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MOD PARENT UP (Score:2)
No, sorry sir, there is no appeal.
[Your friendly local neighbourhood insurance company agent]
(In all seriousness, you are absolutely correct)
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Smart meters don't keep the price high. They fluctuate the price according to the current demand. At peak usage times the electric companies have to pay much more to generate the additional electricity needed, (it costs about 10 x as much to run a generator that burns natural gas instead of coal,) so the smart meter lets them charge more for that electricity.
They're encouraging people to be green for a reason. New power plants aren't being built very often, because nobody wants a coal stack in their back
Nothing! (Score:5, Interesting)
A few months ago the local utility finally commissioned my PV array. Since then, there hasn't been a day that I've used more than I've generated. They do net metering and carry over the excesses from month to month, so my electric consumption since then has been entirely negative -- nearly a megawatt-hour in total, in fact.
(I sized the array to meet my annual demands and added a solar hot water system on top of it. Some back-of-the-envelope math suggested the excess capacity of the SHW would pretty much equal the electricity required by an electric vehicle of some sort which I've yet to buy. In the mean time, it's nothing but surpluses.)
Cheers,
b&
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I love this, but how much does the PV array cost you?
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I love this, but how much does the PV array cost you?
It was about $12,000 after you factor in all the incentives.
b&
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If you're running a net of nearly 1000 KWh in a few months, then you put in far more PV than you needed, and wasted a hell of a lot of money.
That said, congratulations, and it's a shame
Re:Nothing! (Score:5, Interesting)
Oh, I knew up front that I was getting an oversized system. As I wrote, the excess capacity should be enough for me to run an electric vehicle for free, as well as provide for the system's slow decline to 80% of its current capacity in a couple decades as well as perhaps a bit of electrical extravagance now and again.
The money may be "wasted" in that sense, but it still, even if I never get an EV, works out to a 7% - 8% annual rate of return. You can't get anywhere near that kind of return on any other (safe) investment in this market, so I have no regrets whatsoever.
And SRP *does* pay for the excess...once per year, at the end of the April billing cycle, at a wholesale rate of about $0.035 / kWh. Not really enough to notice, but one might hope that, at some point in the future as solar takes off, the regulators will force them to pay retail. Not that I'll ever get rich off of it, but it could pay the rest of my utilities...or, if the plan works out, all of my (modest) transportation energy usage.
Cheers,
b&
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I really hate this idea of PV arrays without battery storage being touted as "net zero" or even adding to the electric supply. Here are a few issues;
1. Do you draw power from the grid when the sun is not up? Yes.
2. Does this power draw come from conventional base load power plants? Yes.
3. Is this power transmitted to you over a system owned and maintained by someone else? Yes
3. Do the Conventional Base lead plants and power distribution network cost money to run and maintain? Yes
4. Do "net zero" homes pay f
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I didn't say anything about less fossil fuels being used; I am talking about paying for the electricity infrastructure when net zero home owners pay nothing.
The point I am trying to make is that net zero energy usage does not equal net zero costs to the energy producer. There are fixed costs associated with energy production. These costs are uncured regardless of whether or not the utility is actually producing energy; Grid maintenance, plant maintenance, repairs, upgrades, plant standby costs etc. Since ev
Re:Nothing! (Score:5, Insightful)
If you had ever bothered to look at your electricity bill, you might have noticed more than just per-kWh usage fees. All SRP customers, for example, including net-metered solar, pay $15 / month in connection fees, along with at least a dollar or two in taxes.
You don't *really* think the utilities are dumb enough to give stuff away for free at a loss to themselves, do you?
At least here in Arizona, home solar is an amazing sweetheat deal for the utilities. They get extra on-peak summer capacity, the most expensive kind possible, not only without having to build more power plants or spin up the standby ones they already have, but they at worst only have to pay nuclear wholesale average prices for it.
It'll be a looooooooong time before enough customers have solar for any sorts of baseload imbalances start to be a problem for the utilities, and long before it *does* become a problem, they'll be in the business of storing their own excess PV daytime capacity for nighttime loads.
I appreciate your concern for the poor defenseless electric utilities, but they're doing just fine, thankyouverymuch.
Cheers,
b&
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The grid must be sized for the overall peak power usage. How about mid January at night? How much power do you think will be going into heating? I bet that it will be a lot and PV's will not help. Therefore the grid and energy production needs to be sized for this peak and not necessarily a sunny summer day. Many houses use electric heat as it is not used very often and is extremely low maintenance. Though when it is used it draws a lot of power.
PVs are not 100% effective all the time. When things are going
Re:Nothing! (Score:5, Informative)
Your deranged rantings are...not even worng. Even the utilities and the petrochemical corps don’t spread this bizarre flavor of FUD you’re spewing, so I have no idea where you’re getting it from.
You seem to be suffering from two basic misconceptions: first, that utilities are too stupid to know how to properly price their services so as to recover all expenses and remain profitable, and, second, that the grid lacks sufficient overnight baseload capacity.
The first I already explained above. SRP, my own local utility, charges $15 / month as a “basic connection fee.” They charge this of all customers, regular and PV alike. Their own literature consistently and repeatedly describes this fee as being for the costs to deliver energy, and that it inludes transmission costs, maintenance, admisitration, and the like.
Secondly, it’s commonly a problem for the utilities that their base generators output too much during off-peak hours. i don’t know what it’s like where you live, but here in the Southwest where all the personal solar installations are going up, the peak hours that the utilities sweat over are most emphatically not after sundown — they instead coincide perfectly with the peak output from solar arrays.
You know, there’s a reason SRP, the local utility, paid me several thousand dollars to put this array on my roof. Even as it is, it’s a fantastic deal — for them. In effect, at a time when they’d normally have to pay probably over 10 / kWh themselves to spool up a diesel generator, I not only am not using any electricity (and thus they don’t have to spool up the generator on my behalf), but I’m actually selling them back electricity at all of 3.5 / kWh that they can then turn around and sell to my neighbors for almost three times as much. And they get to claim my facility towards their own green production credits as well!
If ever there were a win-win-win scenario, this is it. I’m getting an effective 8%+ return on my financial investment, not only guaranteed, but guaranteed to only get better with inflation (and especially energy inflation). I also get the peace of mind of knowng that not only will I never have to pay another dime for electricity, I’ll never have to worry about the power getting shut off for nonpayment. The utility wins because of all the financial reasons I’ve already outlined and because they don’t have to spend future capital on generating capacity on my behalf. And society as a whole wins because I’m neither polluting the planet nor using up a finite and rapidly-dwindling precious resource.
Really, anybody who has any sense at all should be jumping on the solar bandwagon right now. The financial deal has never been better. Even if you can’t afford to finance the capital yourself, get a loan. Think of your bank as your power utility for the duration of the loan. Your loan payments will be significantly less than your current utility bills, and you’ll have free energy after it’s paid off. Depending on how you size your system and the particular local incentives involved, even with the extra cost of servicing the loan, you should still make anywhere from 4% - 7% on your investment, and I can’t imagine any financial advisor who would tell you to turn down an opportunity like that in this environment.
Cheers,
b&
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Would love to hear more about this. Any chance there's a write up of your setup anywhere? Cost, location, that sort of thing? Did you have to contact the utility to set it up in the first place?
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It produces nothing but the feds keep sending me money.
I know you're joking and all, but Solyndra's technology is/was actually pretty cool and it worked well. Solyndra just couldn't compete on price against the suddenly-much-cheaper traditional-style PV panels that China started exporting en masse over the last couple of years.
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Now whyinthehell can't the Democrats point this out instead of letting the Republicans run the lie show again?
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If you pay taxes in the United States, then, at the very least, the Federal government will pay you 30% of the installed cost. There might be states that don't offer additional incentives on top of that, but I'm not aware of any. I'd also be quite surprised to find a utility that didn't offer any incentives. You might check to see if they have any regulatory requirements to produce a certain amount of their power from renewables; if so, offer to sell them the rights to claim your installation as part of the
About $30/month combined (Score:2)
All year long. I don't run my heater in winter because where I live is no insulation and single-pane windows. Still, it works for me.
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Must be a tropical climate... if I didn't run my heater in winter my water pipes would freeze!
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If it were a tropical climate, there wouldn't be a 'winter' and people wouldn't have 'heaters'. Most likely the GP is from a temperate climate with cool (but not cold) winters. Many places fit this description: most of the Mediterranean, most of Australia, portions of the western US coast etc.
.23 USD equivalent / kWh here in Sweden for me (Score:2)
My latest electricity bill (Jun-Aug) had a cost of .23 USD / kWh including costs for transmission+distribution, and taxes. The usage was 742 kWh over 92 days. Apartment in Stockholm, Sweden. District heating.
Each kWh is 0.08772 USD (Score:2)
A kWh for me is about 9 US cents, but there's a ~monthly delivery charge of $6 and local 1% tax.
So the rate varies from month-to-month by a little.
Price = 1.01*(6+0.08772*usage)/usage
where 'usage' is the number of kWh used in the billing period.
My most recent bill was .096 USD/kWh
And I write "~monthly" since the billing periods don't precisely line up with calendar months nor are they even always measured from the same day month to month. My last bill is for usage from Oct 5 through Nov 3 or 29 days by thei
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Joules are the SI unit, but kWh is arguably much more approachable for normal people. It's easy to understand that an appliance using up 100W would cost 0.096 USD/h, but if you put all energy in Joules people won't even know what it is.
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Megajoules, perhaps.
But KWh is much easier to do mental arithmetic with - 100W light bulb, 10 hours = 1KWh.
No because devices are in watts or amps (Score:2)
You check power consumption on any device it'll list its requirements/limits in either watts or amps, either of which easily convert since you know the voltage. Thus watt-hours make sense to use. If you use a device of X watts for Y hours, you will have used X*Y watt-hours of energy.
The reason for using kilowatt-hours in particular is that with the quantities most people use, they give good numbers. That means that you don't have to have tons of stuff behind the decimal, but they aren't so large as to be ha
Well, that's what I pay the utility... (Score:2)
No Idea (Score:2)
Cheap in B.C. (Score:2)
I pay about 7 cents Canadian per kWh. At those prices an electric car would be excellent value, but I live in an apartment and have nowhere to plug one in. :-(
The scary rates are up north. Folks in places like Nunavut can pay up to $2.00 per kWh, depending on where they live. The government subsidizes this down to a less insane price, but still. Ouch.
...laura
Zero! (Score:2)
I'm closing on a house in less than a week though, so I'll just have to vote again once I do...
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Or is rent included with your electric bill?
Mableton, GA USA (Greystone Power) (Score:2)
Unlike most of the Atlanta metro, I have the advantage of NOT having to deal with Georgia Power. :-)
Greystone Power uses a seasonal system (summer and winter), and three tiers for residential power for each season.
For wintertime (which is now), they charge USD 0.074/kWh for the first 650, 0.072/kWh for the next 350, and 0.0637/kWh for anything over 1000 kWh.
For summertime, they charge USD 0.074/kWh for the first 650, 0.097/kWh for the next 350, and then 0.108/kWh for anything over 1000 kWh.
There's also a ge
Good old PG&E... (Score:2)
Bureau of Labor and Statistics [bls.gov] report for energy pricing in the San Francisco area.
Oooohhh, look! PG&E is soooooooo efficient, that I get my electricity at a mere 66% premium over the nation average! And my gas at only a 30% premium! Way to go, PG&E!
'cause, obviously, they're spending all that extra money on infrastructure improvements!
(for those who aren't up on local events in the SF area, about a year ago a 1m gas pipeline ruptured in San Bruno and incinerated a 3-block neighborhood. Yeah
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(nobody has implicated poor workmanship in the explosion
The Wikipedia article on the explosion says poor welds were to blame for the explosion. Although the welds in question were done in the 50s, so real verification of the work would have basically been impossible.
That said, it appears that PG&E neglected to perform any testing of their lines prior to increasing pressure, so it would be their responsibility.
Los Angeles Department of Water and Power (Score:2)
Los Angeles is somewhat unusual for California in that its electricity generation is owned by the city, instead of being a privatized monolopy.
It is a 3 Tier system, where, during the summer, the 1st tier (350 kWh per month) is the cheapest and the 3rd is the most expensive. Oddly, during the winter, all three tiers cost the same. Go figure.
Anyway, looks like a kWh costs about 0.14USD on Tier 1. I don't have air conditioning, so it would be pretty hard to exceed 350 kWh. 350 kWh works out to an average p
My government (Ontario, Canada) on the other hand (Score:2)
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Ontario Power Generation pays 80.2 cents/kwh only for small rooftop solar - it pays less for all other forms of contributed power, and its effective cost for generating (Nuclear, fossil, hydro) is much less, since as a whole, OPG makes a profit.
One rate in summer, another in winter (Score:2)
Electricity costs us significantly more per kWh in winter - and of course we use more, especially having electric heat. I assumed this was the norm, but don't see anyone else mentioning it. Is that not the case?
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Solar for the Win! (Score:2)
Back in 2003 I installed 48 panels on my roof rated at 7.5kw. They generate between 11,000 and 12,000 kWh per year which is enough for all the energy we use and we get a small payback from the utility company for the excess - should be around $150 this year, which more than covers the $5 a month meter rental :)
The initial cost was $31,000 after rebates and tax incentives and based on my usage I calculated a 10 year break-even. However, energy costs in California have risen quite a bit since 2003 and I thi
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You installed 48 panels on your roof? My questions are: how big is your house and where do you live?
Rates in France (Score:2)
EDF is the main electricity producer/provider in France.
Here are its rates: http://bleuciel.edf.com/abonnement-et-contrat/les-prix/les-prix-de-l-electricite/tarif-bleu-47798.html [edf.com]
This is about 0.15 USD/kWh, not including subscription charges.
My rates (Score:2)
I'm in an urban area of Iowa and I pay the following:
Summer tiers 1-3: ~0.10/kWh (the exact same rate for all 3 tiers)
Winter tier 1: ~0.087/kWh
Winter tier 2: ~0.067/kWh (yes, tier 2 is cheaper than tier 1)
Winter tier 3: ? (I never use that much electricity in the winter - gas heat)
However, when you factor in all of the other charges, on my last bill (all in the winter tiers) my cost worked out to be around 0.14/kWh.
I use over twice as much electricity in the summer as I do in the winter (I like my air-condi
Why should i care? (Score:2)
I have no idea how much i pay per kWh though and i can't really see why i should bother looking it up. It's not like i get a choice about who i get electricity from, and it's not like i'm going to just choose not to use electricity. We do try to limit our usage in reasonable manners (see the
24 eurocents / kWh in Germany (Score:2)
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In Belgium it depends a lot on your supplier. Mine [ecopower.be] charges 22 eurocents/kWh and zero subscription fee, including distribution tariffs. And the power is 100% green (real green, as in "not from originally coal fired plants that are now burning wood chips in the same extremely inefficient way" or so).
"Smart" meters (Score:2)
Unless of course the fear-of-electromagnetic-fields crowd actually convinces the government not to install them due to health concerns.
Re:We have a Tiered system in Colorado (Score:4, Interesting)
>>I voted with my Summer Tier1/Winter rate. I have never hit Tier 2 (>500kWh) so I don't know that rate.
Yeah, it was hard to decide how to vote, too. Top tier power (at peak times) in Northern California is around 50c/kWh, but off-peak baseline usage is as "low" as 7.5c/kWh. Depends on your plan (http://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-6.pdf or http://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-7.pdf [pge.com]).
Complicating factors, I have solar, which has a levelized cost of around 23c/kWh, but that's including state and federal subsidies of around 33%.
So it's complicated.
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> So it's complicated.
It is called an average ?
Take the total amount payed and devide it by the total kWh used.
I'm sure it is annoying having to do that just for a slashdot poll, so I can imagine you didn't want to do the work.
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I have tiered service. The first few kwh run about $0.12, but they quickly rise to $0.43 (or so.) In the summer, I'm always well into Tier 5, the highest level. The winter is lots lower.
My rates actually go down with greater usage. There's a breakpoint at 800 kWh/month -- I don't know if there are further discounts. But the basic rate per kWh does go up a little in the summer by about 7%.
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Our rates here are tiered as well: 6.67 cents up to 1350 kWh, then it goes to 9.62 cents.
I've recently gotten more energy efficient lighting and high efficiency appliances, I've insulated all my water pipes (electric hot water tank), and set my computers to go into power saving mode when they're not in use. My monthly bill fell by almost half, so much so that I haven't gone into the second tier for several months now...
ROI wasn't bad, will pay itself off middle next year, then it's all savings!
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Really? I keep an eye on it occasionally. Over a few years I've changed a few things/insulated my hot water tank (electric) and set up power controls on my computers. My bill went from $70 a month to about $40 a month, that's $360 savings in a year. Some of the things I've done weren't particularly cheap initially, but the ROI I calculated will break even next year (around June), then it's all back in my wallet. I plan to l
Re:I'm a grad student (Score:4, Insightful)
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I don't even know how much I pay a month. It's an automated debit, and I can afford it, so what does it matter?
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Listen pal, there are 150million people in the US, alone, that care. Inflated energy prices are a huge problem for most of the population. Your ignorance of your brethren is very clear.
Why not care about how much you pay...then, take whatever you do save in a year and employ (or give it to) someone that could actually use that money for something useful, like food and med
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2 Linux boxes BOINC'ing all day., 6 video cameras feeding a q-see device and ZoneMinder.
Geekiest porn site ever!
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I wonder what it's costing me to search for aliens while monitoring birds and jerks wandering around my house?
Guessing 600W for two computers on 100% CPU (might be a bit high), about 0.0849*0.6*24*365 = $450 a year.
If you're paying for air conditioning you can increase that cost, but I have no idea how much -- I've never lived somewhere that needs aircon.
I think my server uses about 125W, and electricity costs 11p/kWh, so that's £120/year. I'm thinking of replacing it, either with an old netbook (e.g. from eBay with a broken screen) or a small ARM computer.
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If you're a member of the Seattle Public Library you can check out a Kill-a-watt and figure it out for sure. I did that and found a bit of waste, but not much over all that I could cut.
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Holy hell. I pay $0.03/kWh. My bill has gone up to $68. If I paid your rates, it would have been over four thousand dollars. That's an insane price--how is it that there's no cheaper way? At that price there's got to be a hundred alternatives that cost less. Hell, at sixty-three times the cost, it might cost you less if I charged up a pallet of batteries, sold them to you, and then shipped them across the ocean when you sold them off after draining them.
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.12/kWh US and minimum wage is .50/h US?!? That is fu****up!
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Parts of California pay well over $0.20, and Hawaii runs over $0.25. Difficult rural areas can go past even that.
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The cheapest portion of my power is almost twenty cents per kWh here in northern California. The most expensive portion is somewhere around 35 cents per kWh last time I looked. I'm not sure what the average is for my entire bill, but it's extortionate, whatever it is. It makes solar power look downright cheap by comparison....
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Yeah, the rate is insane, but I still pay less than I did in Florida or Texas - you barely need to run the AC here, and the heat is gas, so that's just a fan.
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Many bills in the US are now broken out between a generation fee and a delivery fee. From the end user perspective, its the total that matters.