Pirates, Web 2.0, and Hundred Dollar Laptop 339
Update on the One Laptop per Child Project. dominique_cimafranca writes "Ethan Zuckerman gives a report on his visit to the headquarters of the One Laptop per Child project. Some details on practical design considerations such as the hinge, the rabbit ears, and why the hand crank was ultimately left out (apparently, Kofi Annan broke the crank on a prototype). Several pictures, and a look at the motherboard of the OLPC laptop."
TOR Calls Out Torvalds, Stallman on Web 2.0. theodp writes "In an unusual defense of partner CMP's trademarking of Web 2.0, Tim O'Reilly points a finger at Linus Torvalds and Richard Stallman in his rebuttal posts. TOR also says the blogger who posted the O'Reilly-approved cease-and-desist letter from CMP 'owes us an apology for the way he responded' (he got one)."
Fallout from The Pirate Bay Raid. Tyler Too writes "The Swedish national police website has been taken offline by a denial of service attack which started Thursday night. That's not the only fallout from the raid on The Pirate Bay: there's a demonstration planned in Stockholm on Saturday."
U.S. Government Ordered The Pirate Bay Shutdown? mkro writes "According to the Swedish government sponsored tv channel SVT, U.S. government officials -- after being approached by the MPAA -- requested the Swedish justice department to take down The Pirate Bay. According to the story, the Swedish justice department asked police and prosecution to act, but when they explained the laws are too vague, they turned directly to the state attorney and the chief of the national police force."
tpb (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:tpb (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:tpb (Score:5, Funny)
Re:tpb (Score:2)
I don't think those graphs show anything. First of all, if you look at the 4 week graph, you'll see that activity is usually highest on Monday, and then it decays to a low level during the weekend. This week's pattern is no different. Next, if you look at the yearly graph, this week is one of the highest in the last year. So all in all, I don't know what your conclusion is? Traffic in Sweeden went down because of TPB closing? I don't see that.
And anywa
TOR Versus Tim O'Reilly (Score:2, Insightful)
It only took a second or two for me to figure out you weren't talking about EFF, but it was still annoying.
SciFi Vs OSS, oh noes! (Score:5, Insightful)
Seriously, I have never heard any one abbreviate Tim O'Reilly TOR.
Re:SciFi Vs OSS, oh noes! (Score:5, Funny)
Oh, yeah. And Linus is LBT (which is also Lettuce, Bacon, and Tomato), Alan Cox is AC (anonymous coward), Paul Graham is PG (parental guidance - which is way too mild, IMO, for his near-pornographic technical book, On Lisp), and Bruce Perens is BP (blood pressure, Black Panthers, or Solomon Islands, of all things).
Huh. Maybe we should stick to spelling out the names. Except RMS (root mean square - voltage and stuff) and ESR (electron spin resonance), because we've been using those for years.
Re:SciFi Vs OSS, oh noes! (Score:3, Interesting)
Nope, you're not. I assume that you (like me) have a lot more TOR books on your shelves than you do O'Reilly books? (Though I admit I have plenty of both.)
Re:TOR Versus Tim O'Reilly (Score:2)
Re:TOR Versus Tim O'Reilly (Score:2)
So there's really no confusion.
Join the **AA cabal... (Score:5, Funny)
MPAA: get Heathrow drug dogs sniffing DVDs!
RIAA: get Swedish police shutting down torrents!
GNAA: get chocolate buttsecks!
THE Police Website. (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.polisen.se/ [polisen.se]
Re:THE Police Website. (Score:3, Informative)
LAME.
Re:THE Police Website. (Score:2)
It seems that they have found a good use... (Score:2, Funny)
Zero point energy (Score:5, Funny)
And the guy's writing the article for IEEE Spectrum [ieee.org]. Good luck in your next job.
Re:Zero point energy (Score:5, Insightful)
Thus, I must assume that the blog is a general description of the product specifications, not a detailed, technical presentation. (My apologies if I am wrong.)
That said, the portion you cited is an acceptable simplification of the actual product specs, when the target audience is non-techincal. It may have been more accurate to say the following:
"The current prototype accepts input voltages from 2.25 to 23 Volts, including sources with high noise components. It can also correct for inverted supply inputs, allowing it to effectively support -2.25 to -23 Volts."
However, a non-technical person (perhaps even just a non-electrical engineer) would get little to no additional information from my quote than from his. Why should he write overly-complicated blog posts above the technical comprehension level of his intended audience?
Again, I cannot verify the blog post's intended audience, as I cannot access it. However, this is not the first time I've seen people on Slashdot react to non-technical writing by technical people, and attack those people for that writing. Instead of doing this, the correct response is to examine both the writer and his intended audience. If people on Slashdot are not the intended audience of the post, then the Slashdot reader should judge the technical level as the intended reader would, not as he or she does.
Re:Zero point energy (Score:5, Informative)
and hacking the media.
June 1, 2006
It's cute. It's orange. It's got bunny ears. An update on the One Laptop Per Child project
Filed under: Developing world, ICT4D, Geekery -- Ethan @ 5:52 pm
Last Friday, I visited with my friends Walter Bender and Jim Gettys at the new headquarters of the One Laptop per Child Project - the past few days have been so busy that I'm just getting the chance to write up notes from our conversation now, almost a week later. I'm writing an article for the IEEE Spectrum on the project and had asked Walter if I could come by and grill him on the technical and conceptual details of the project. But that's really just an excuse - I'm fascinated by the project, and am trying to offer what help I can to Nicholas Negroponte and his team in helping people understand what the project is and isn't, offering my perspective on how the device might best be rolled out, supported and used in developing nations.
One of the most interesting phenomena surrounding the One Laptop Per Child project has been the amount of attention it's garnered, not just from the development community, but from average users around the world. Interest in the project seems to focus on a basic and very compelling idea: a laptop that costs a hundred dollars or less. After writing a long blogpost on the project and an article at Worldchanging.com, I now average receive on average 20 emails per week asking to purchase the laptop, or recieve one as a gift. I now have a keyboard macro that gives a stock response: I'm not officially affiliated with the project, the laptop isn't available yet, and when it is, it will be sold in lots of a million or more to governments and school systems.
Most of the people who write me are interested in owning a laptop they can afford. And that, it turns out, is not the goal of the One Laptop Per Child project. Their goal is to produce a laptop designed for use by children - students in grades K-12. And that requires radically different design decisions that what one would make in simply creating a low-cost laptop.
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Getting across the distinction that this is a children's laptop, not just a cheap laptop, is a surprisingly difficult task. When I last wrote about the laptop on Worldchanging, a number of commenters mentioned that they'd like one of the computers as a backup or travel computer - I suspect they might feel differently after playing with one of the current prototypes. They're really small. This is a good thing - I wouldn't want a kindergarden student carrying around my 12 PowerBook - it's too heavy and too fragile. The current prototype is little, orange, and very, very cute. It has a molded plastic handle and looks remarkably like a Speak and Spell.
It's got bunny years - antennas for the 802.11s wireless radios, which are designed to self-assemble meshes with other laptops. The ears fold down to cover the USB, power and mic ports, an excellent design for the sorts of dusty environments I can imagine the device used in. The screen in the current prototype is a conventional LCD screen - the screen in the production devices will be roughly the same size, probably slightly larger than the 7.5 screen in the prototype, but will be based around a technique that doesn't require white fluorescent backlight. (Many of the questions I need to answer for the IEEE article concern the screen, as it's one of the most expensive and power-hungry components of the machine.) The keyboard is about 60% of the size of a conventional keyboard and has calculator-style keys.
My favorite feature of the current prototype is the hinge that holds the machine together. Ever since Nicholas outlined the engineering challenges of building a good hinge, I've been fascinated by the different ways people attach screens to laptops. As promised, the laptop can be folded into an ebook, with the screen on top, used as a handheld game player, or have the screen turned around so the machine can be used
Re:Zero point energy (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Zero point energy (Score:3, Informative)
Now, practically, the statement probably isn't PERFECTLY correct since your power supply circuitry is going to have some minimal resistance
Way to Un-clarify (Score:5, Informative)
If one reads O'Reilly's post, the entire endeavor undertaken in the post is to explain how USUAL the cease and desist letter that was issued is when defending a trademark. And then he cites Torvolds and other as examples of other people who have trademarks they wish to defend. There's no finger pointing going on, nor is there any oddity in his defense. Which again, is the whole point of O'Reilly's discussion. This entire thing has been blown way out of proportion, and i'm amazed that someone can read O'Reilly's piece and then go ahead and incorrectly convey the content.
What irony.
Crack Cocaine (Score:2)
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My Government is POISON to the rest of the world! (Score:4, Insightful)
It's time other nations started to shun the US even more than they already do. Perhaps then some sort of balance could come from this. The next bout of elections will not come soon enough but even then I'm unsure of how much damage will be reversed.
Re:My Government is POISON to the rest of the worl (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:My Government is POISON to the rest of the worl (Score:3, Insightful)
Because the concepts of intellectual property and copyright were invented by the US, and the only people who benefit from those concepts are Americans (it's funny that you are actually implying that Americans are the only ones who produce decent intellectual property).
I think that, for starters, the US should be excommunicated from the U.N. and N.A.T.O. alliances for their behavior.
The US is supposed to pay 1/4 of the UN's expense
Re:My Government is POISON to the rest of the worl (Score:5, Insightful)
The fact is the US pressured another government to take down a site that was LEGAL in the country it was in.
Re:My Government is POISON to the rest of the worl (Score:2)
Re:My Government is POISON to the rest of the worl (Score:2)
In capitalism, you don't make money by not selling any goods. The US government would have to impose a trade embargo to forcefully prevent corporations from selling to Swedes. This move would piss off a lot of people, would get a lot of negative press, etc.
US would use allies in the EU to apply similar pressure.
What allies? Even if there were any (Poland?), the EU regulations almost certainly prevent one EU member from embargoing another.
Oh, and
Re:My Government is POISON to the rest of the worl (Score:2)
Any embargo on any other country would probably be the same. Look at Cuba. Mexico and other countries make a mint off selling Cuba american goods. It wasn't untill recently that Cuba exhiled american money too. What kind of emargo effect is that?
So we stop sellng the sweeds goods, All that does is introduce another middleman. Nothing re
Re:My Government is POISON to the rest of the worl (Score:4, Insightful)
They don't have that many friends either! Apart from the UK and even thats restricted to Mr Blair. The population / Media here in the UK are very critical of Tony Blair and Gerorgy Bush's close "Relationship". Often it's the butt of jokes.
America would find it very hard to embargo (blockade) Sweden because it's illegal to prevent free trade between EU member nations. Sweden will just import goods via another EU country. America would have to cut trade with the whole of the EU. I don't see that winning many friends.
Yes and now Iraq is in turmoil to the point of near civil war. Al-Qaeda now has a new base of operation (Saddam as brutal as he was, was no friend of Osama). The Muslim world is enraged at the West making the world a far more dangerous place and the US has left itself impotent in the face of Iran's Weapons program.
Either you are ignorant of world affairs. A Republican with a Nationalist complex or I've just fed a troll. Either way your statements are so far from reality they can't even see it.
Re:My Government is POISON to the rest of the worl (Score:2)
Re:My Government is POISON to the rest of the worl (Score:2)
Re:My Government is POISON to the rest of the worl (Score:3, Insightful)
The travesty of this situation is not what the US did, but what Swedenish politicians did (if early reports are to be believed). Many nations bitch to the US all the time about hosting web sites that are illegal and the US merrily ignores them. The US in turn gives China crap about the websites that they take down and China merrily ignores the US. Governments leaning on other governments to enforce
Re:My Government is POISON to the rest of the worl (Score:4, Interesting)
Let me requote from another thread (Thomas Jefferson):
"It has been pretended by some, (and in England especially,) that inventors have a natural and exclusive right to their inventions, and not merely for their own lives, but inheritable to their heirs. But while it is a moot question whether the origin of any kind of property is derived from nature at all, it would be singular to admit a natural and even an hereditary right to inventors. It is agreed by those who have seriously considered the subject, that no individual has, of natural right, a separate property in an acre of land, for instance."
Re:My Government is POISON to the rest of the worl (Score:2)
Re:My Government is POISON to the rest of the worl (Score:2)
Re:My Government is POISON to the rest of the worl (Score:2)
"supposed to" is the keyword there. Last I checked, they were several years behind in payment. There was a time (I think during the late 90s) where the UN was in serious financial trouble due to the US outright refusal to pay their share.
Re:My Government is POISON to the rest of the worl (Score:2)
I remeber my congress critter making that statement once when the UN was threatening to take veto power away. I guess we said we cited that and said we would withdraw or something to that effect if it happeneed and those talks disapeared.
Re:My Government is POISON to the rest of the worl (Score:5, Interesting)
So instead of cutting out on us, why don't you just elect a president that doesn't suck next time, 'kay?
The US people don't elect the President (Score:4, Interesting)
You're making the wild assumption that the American people actually elected Bush in 2000 and 2004. (How soon we forget!)
For simplicity's sake (!) we'll ignore US laws which bias our elections to favor only Republicans and Democrats. We'll also ignore that under the US Constitution the antiquated and undemocratic Electoral College selects the president and not the American people ('cause the American people clearly chose Gore in 2000). And, of course, we'll ignore that Corporate America funds our elections and politicians so effectively that corporations sometimes -- literally -- write laws that they then have their politicians enact.
As a Brit I don't expect you to be familiar with such dirty details like that.
But it was the BBC's own Greg Palast [gregpalast.com] whose investigations proved that the 2000 and 2004 elections were blatantly rigged using a wide variety of techniques -- ground-breaking journalism confirmed by others much later.
Re:The US people don't elect the President (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:The US people don't elect the President (Score:2)
In the British Parliamentary System (used in a lot more countries than you may think), someone can become the
Re:The US people don't elect the President (Score:2)
How many of those 49% voted strategically for Bush, rather than actually *wanted* him to become President (because they thought Gore was even worse)?
Re:My Government is POISON to the rest of the worl (Score:2)
Whatever happened to the "just say no" campaigns, maybe another coutry should pick em up and Just Say No to illegal requests from foreign gov'ts
Sounds like the whole "Mom said no, so i'll ask Dad" routinue and Dad bit
Bad guy:
Could there be stuff on there that shouldn't be if they host for others also? and will it bite them in the ass?
Re:My Government is POISON to the rest of the worl (Score:2)
Re:My Government is POISON to the rest of the worl (Score:2)
The vast, vast majority of people only want to live a happy, comfortable life without intimate intrusion from someone else's ideology and (possibly largely) differing beliefs. Everyone should still be able to Get Along.
At the root of many of the problems
Re:My Government is POISON to the rest of the worl (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:My Government is POISON to the rest of the worl (Score:2)
I say this as one who supported Bush over Gore the first time around in 2000 (big mistake).
Report on the health of the U.S. government: (Score:2)
The U.S. government is becoming involved in a culture of all war, all the time, and all surveillance, all the time.
Most people don't realize that former presidents have access to CIA and NSA data. So, if voters in the U.S. elect a president who has family and friends and business associates heavily invested in oil and weapons companies, that president will be able to use the data to spy on competitors. It's not so crude as t
Fallout (Score:5, Informative)
Pirate Bay will reappear in Ukraine, Russia, The Netherlands and three other countries. People have been very generous with equipment and hosting as soon as they heard it was the Pirate Bay folks asking for assistance.
The Swedish Police site, www.polisen.se, was taken out for a day with a sustained DoS attack. An investigation has been started.
The public is in favor of the Pirate Bay in numbers like 90-10 or so, and most are extremely critical of the action against the Pirate Bay, especially since the police used 50 police officers to seize two computer nerds and their legal representative. A whole slew of innocent operators were also having their machinery seized, in an unconstitutional manner.
The action may have a real political effect, come the September elections.
Moving Country Moving but onto Anonymous P2P (Score:3, Interesting)
Warez sites are moving about to other countries, and some are even popping up on Freenet now [digg.com]. I think anonymous p2p will be the next main phase.
The first phase was napster (centralized in many respects), then second generation p2p was gnutella and emule, and now the third generation has Freenet [sourceforge.net], I2P [i2p.net], GNUnet [gnunet.org], Rodi [sourceforge.net], AntsP2P [sourceforge.net], Mute [sourceforge.net], etc. Even if you're not interested in the issue the back and forth conflict between the
Re:MY side of the story (Score:2)
Re:MY side of the story (Score:2)
LOL
Re:MY side of the story (Score:5, Interesting)
You're implicitly assuming that most of the pirated copies are a forgone sale. Most of them are likely to be teenagers who never would've bought from you anyway. Most people downloading are time rich, money poor.
You're also assuming that all those copies provided you with no exposure. For all you know that piracy may've been encouraging, not depressing, your sales.
Bottom line is you have no idea. So don't get all uptight about it.
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New game: Spot the lying astroturfer on /.!
More on TPB (Score:5, Informative)
Tom Raftery blogged about the Web 2.0 fiasco (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Tom Raftery blogged about the Web 2.0 fiasco (Score:2)
Brilliant Move (Score:5, Insightful)
Because nothing increases support for your cause like DoSing a police website...
the $100 laptop is really coming along... (Score:2, Interesting)
Wait... (Score:2, Funny)
Giving orders to police illegal (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Giving orders to police illegal (Score:3, Interesting)
Pirates (Score:4, Funny)
US interest acting abroad: Scientology (Score:5, Interesting)
From the article
In September 1996, an anonymous user posted the confidential writings of the Church of Scientology through the Penet remailer. The Church once again demanded that Julf turn over the identity of one of its users, claiming that the poster had infringed the Church's copyright on the confidential material. The Church was successful in finding the originating e-mail address of the posting before Penet remailed it, but it turned out to be another anonymous remailer: the alpha.c2.org nymserver, a more advanced and more secure remailer which didn't keep a mapping of e-mail addresses that could be subpoenad.
Facing multiple criticism and attacks, and unable to guarantee the anonymity of Penet users, Julf shut down the remailer in September of 1996.
Truly a chilling possibility.
Re:US interest acting abroad: Scientology (Score:2)
Hey, I was using TPB legally! (Score:2)
Such moral dilemma; should I sit here and continue being screwed over, or should I go down to their level and sue them for interrupting my excercise schedule, and reducing my estimated lifespan by 5 years?
Re:Hey, I was using TPB legally! (Score:2)
Ooooh that had to hurt! (Score:2)
Ouch, I hope Kofi didn't need surgery for his crank!
Ba-Dum-KSSCH!
Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week, try the fish!
MPAA suing isoHunt this week too (Score:5, Informative)
Re:MPAA suing isoHunt this week too (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.cbc.ca/story/arts/national/2006/05/31/
There is more at http://www.isohunt.com/ [isohunt.com] too.
Misnomer (Score:5, Informative)
The fact is that they are lobbyist groups; simply petitioners to the US Government. Sadly, they are wealthy, numerous, and well connected petitioners, so they get preferential treatment, but neither of them is a government body any more than any group of citizens. They way they "win" their cases is by having enough money and fear tactics at their disposal to dodge court time and exploit holes in the American judiciary.
Re:Misnomer (Score:5, Informative)
100$ laptop = hype city (Score:3, Interesting)
Apparently, of all the millions of wealthy people in the world, including all those in China and India and OPEC, not one cares enuf to step up to the plate, but has to have some publicty hound from MIT do it.
I say if hte poor people of hte world are so ill served by their own leaders, screw em - better to buy rifles for the revolution
Re:100$ laptop = hype city (Score:4, Insightful)
If you were to follow the project (or just think about it for a few minutes) then you would realize the point of this thing. There is no Windows requirement. It doesn't have tons of moving parts (like a hard drive) or generate tons of heat (which requires a fan to cool) or have a 1 1/2 hour battery life. It is designed to be RUGGED, last a LONG TIME, and be VERY energy efficient.
A $300 laptop you buy at Best Buy won't fit those criteria. It will break down easy. It will suck energy. You won't be able to run it by powering it with a foot pedal, it will need too much energy. It won't run well in sub-Saharan Africa due to the heat and the dust and sand and whatever. It doesn't weight just a little bit, it weighs 6-8 pounds. It doesn't have a easy cary handle.
Yep, that $300 laptop you talk about would easily work.
Re:100$ laptop = hype city (Score:2)
Pictures of animals (Score:2)
Any animal? Even animals O'Reilly has never used in a book cover? My first reaction to this is that there's something very wrong about that. Trademark law has become a lot worse now that things like "trade dress" are considered trademarks. Makes me sick.
Re:Pictures of animals (Score:2)
Regarding your signature... (Score:2)
Melissa
The pirate bay? (Score:2)
people care about it? Was it a web-site, a hosting company? I gather so far that
it had something to do with the internet, and judging by the name it might have
been a warez site or a warez-friendly host, but that's just a guess. Anyone care
to enlighten me.
Re:The pirate bay? (Score:2, Informative)
Some light reading.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit_torrent [wikipedia.org]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pirate_Bay [wikipedia.org]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden [wikipedia.org]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hasselhoff [wikipedia.org]
Re:The pirate bay? (Score:2)
http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/ [justfuckinggoogleit.com]
Re:The pirate bay? (Score:2)
What is Pirate Bay and why do people care about it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pirate_Bay [wikipedia.org]
(Anticipating your next question...) What is Wikipedia and why do people care about it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia [wikipedia.org]
Love the parallels (Score:2)
Re:Love the parallels (Score:2)
That's how lots of trademarks are made, actually, just take something that's common and mess with it a little: Target, General Motors, Chevron, Blu-Ray, Standard Oil, and so forth.
Re: (Score:2)
Re:Love the parallels (Score:3, Funny)
FYI about the demonstrations (Score:2, Informative)
Translation of the swedish article (Score:5, Informative)
The US government behind closing of site
The US government was behind the raid against the filesharing network Pirate Bay yesterday, according to sources to the SVT news program Rapport.
In april a delegation with members of the justice department and the police met up with american authorities who brought the issue up by request of the MPAA. The interest organisation of Hollywood.
The justice department then requested the police and prosecutors to act. When they replied that the legal issues where unclear the minister of justice's secretary of state contacted the state prosecutor and the state chief of police who in turn ordered action.
Minister rule
The Pirate Bay has openly challenged right-holders within the film and music industry. Nevertheless many in the internet society are surprised of the actions of the swedish authorities.
This is what happened according to sources. The american interest organisation MPAA contacted the gorvernment in the white house. The american department of foreign affairs then contacted the swedish department of foreign affairs and demanded the issue with Pirate bay be solved.
According to the source the prosecutor and the police was ordered to act and describes the actions of the secretary of state as minister rule.
"Web 2.0" is only trademarked for conferences (Score:2)
Web 2.1 to be released immediately... (Score:3, Funny)
Ok, how about every just start calling these things Web 2.1 an we'll be done with it already...
Re:TOR must have enought money. (Score:4, Funny)
MOD PARENT DOWN, and RTFA (Score:3, Insightful)
2.
MediaLive filed for the trademark on the Web 2.0 Conference back in November 2003, when they first entered into the partnership agreement with O'Reilly on this conference. This was before Web 2.0 became such a popular term -- the filing actually preceded the first conference. However, I wasn't personally aware of this trademark filing till this past February, as a result of discussions with CMP after the MediaLive purchase.
Next, is the issue of proportional response. O'Reilly as an INS
Re: Booga booga booga! (Score:2)
Unlike "Notheory (580275) 2.0", web2.0, as much as we like it or not, has actually come to mean something, due in large part to O'Reilly's (the institution) efforts. They were trying to convey something when they copyrighted web 2.0, as dumb a name as it is. Lambasting them for holding the rights for a term that they invented (not made as in the term, but made as in the meaning) is an idiotic and backwards piece of reasoning.
As for O'Reilly's citations, the man is not jus
Re: Booga booga booga! (Score:2)
Re: Booga booga booga! (Score:2)
Re:Sorry Tim, but - PISS OFF! (Score:2)
trademarking "404" (Score:5, Funny)
From now on, all use of "404" on the internet is subject to licensing fee.
Re:trademarking "404" (Score:3, Funny)
Re:trademarking "404" (Score:3, Funny)