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Comment Re: Duh? (Score 1) 228

Familiarity. I've been using Windows since Windows 3.0, so I'm very familiar with the interface and the way the systems works behind the scenes. Over the same time I have used Unix, FreeBSD, and quite a lot of Linux distributions. Because there was such a variety in the *nix side of things, all of which worked differently from other similar operating systems, I actually find that I am quicker getting stuff done in Windows. Windows 8 nearly ruined this with its stupid modern UI, but I have been able to ignore most of that and stick with the old desktop.

It's what I use at work, so programs that I use (and write) at work can also be used on my home systems. Also, when buying software (especially games), Windows is the better supported platform. For open source stuff, the situation is reversed, but I most of the software I use also has Windows versions too. I am gradually moving my standard selection of programs to cross-platform versions so I can one day migrate from Windows. The only reason why I would do this is because I don't trust the direction that Microsoft is taking these days.

PowerShell. This is one of the things that keeps me on Windows; I just love PowerShell. Sure, they released an open-source, cross-platform version, but to get the best out of the shell you really need to run it on Windows.

Despite what you say, security is definitely good enough. Since the release of Service Pack 2 for XP, every version of Windows has gained more security features. I haven't had any malware problems since I upgraded to XP (which happened after SP2 was released). It helps that I have always used limited user accounts (like this article says). Of course, I don't go running random programs that get emailed to me, but then I also wouldn't do that on Linux either because I don't just assume that it is that much more secure than Windows.

Comment Re:Also in the news (Score 1) 228

You fucking moron. Standard users don't have admin credentials. OF COURSE THEY HAVE TO TYPE ADMIN CREDENTIALS IN.

Did you even read the part that I quoted from the grandparent, which said that you didn't need to type the password in? Obviously not. It's kind of weird that you call me a moron because I am correct.

Comment Re:Not viable on Windows 10 (Score 1) 228

But, about half the applications I use in Windows require administrator rights to work.

You should probably name and shame those applications then, because they are the problem; not Windows.

I would add an extra reason to your list of why some programs require administrator rights: stupidity. The accounts software that we used for many years required administrator rights to run. It annoyed me because I could not see why it would be required. Upon inspection, I found a *.MANIFEST file in the install directory. It had a setting of something like userLevel=highestAvailable. I changed this to asInvoker and it no longer gave a UAC warning. It worked perfectly without those additional settings.

There is no need to shame them because they fixed this in a later version. But how stupid was it to insist that your accounting computers were more vulnerable to malware than they needed to be.

Comment Re:Duh? (Score 1) 228

I'm sorry, but I think that is completely wrong. Exactly how does Windows starting with maximum permissions actually manifest as a real world example?

If you start with a basic account, you don't have to whittle away its rights; it is low by default. If you want it to be a higher access account then you add it to the Administrators group. Then it inherits the additional permissions. This is the opposite of what you described.

Where you might be getting confused is that the permissions system allows for both Allow and Deny settings, but it is extremely rare to see Deny being used. For an example of how Deny works, if you wanted to create an account that could install software, but not edit the firewall settings, you would add the Administrators group to the account and then Deny edit rights to the firewall. Deny is only useful AFTER you have raised the account's permissions from the default low settings.

Comment Re:Duh? (Score 1) 228

When you make the decision to use windows, you are accepting that you are vulnerable.

But if you can make yourself 94% less vulnerable, it makes sense to do this. I wouldn't run as root/administrator as my general purpose account on ANY operating system. I also would not assume that ANY operating system would make me invulnerable.

Comment Re:if apps had rights to there own folder then (Score 1) 228

if apps had rights to there own folder / reg keys then there would be less of an need for admin.

This feature was implemented with Vista. To work around those badly written programs that assume that they can write to their installation folder or LOCAL_MACHINE registry, Microsoft implemented File and Registry Virtualization. If an application opens a file in read/write mode under Program Files, then a copy of that file is made in %APPDATA% and this file is used instead.

This was only intended for old programs, and it only works for 32bit applications. It is assumed that 64bit applications are modern enough to know where they should place configuration files and such.

Comment Re:Not viable on Windows 10 (Score 1) 228

How do you run a program as an administrator with a different account in windows 10?

If it is on the start menu right click on it, then on the pop-up menu choose "More->Run as administrator". If the program is an icon on the desktop or an executable file then right click on it and choose "Run as administrator". If you always want to run that particular program as an administrator, then right click on the desktop icon or program file and choose Properties. Under the Compatibility tab, select "Run this program as an administrator".

Comment Re:Not viable on Windows 10 (Score 1) 228

What they're trying to say is that there are situations where this will not work, where Windows will not ask you for the password, but just fail instead, thus concluding that for some things your account MUST have admin rights.

And what are those unspecified situations? Because I can't think of anything right now, and especially not something that I would need to run often enough to purposefully undermine the security of my system by running as an administrator account all the time..

Comment Re:Duh? (Score 2) 228

That was an exaggeration for emphasis. I could be more specific.. On a work laptop, I can write to my 'c:\Users\\Documents' folder, but if I try to access it via the various shortcuts on the left of the file manager, I am denied access. No UAC, even though I have the password for that. The permissions on the thing vary based on the path you access it by? That's messed up.

That's not an account type issue; something is seriously borked on your system. That doesn't happen normally even if you are a standard user. It sounds like the user folders have been moved, but the icons haven't been updated to reflect this. (It's possible that something like OneDrive has fiddled with the folder locations).

I assume that you are talking about the Quick Access section. If I were you I would right click on those folders and select "Unpin from Quick Access". Then browse to the folders and click on "Pin to Quick Access" in the Home ribbon to recreate the list. That should fix the problem.

Comment Re:Not viable on Windows 10 (Score 1) 228

No you're full of crap, or you're just dumb. It's one or the other.

That's very rude, and especially funny since you are wrong.

The point that was made was that you can do it if you keep switching accounts, which is cumbersome, but the convenient way of always using your regular account and only identifying as admin when needed does not work.

You don't need to switch accounts. If you are changing a system setting or installing software as a standard user, the system prompts for a password. You do not need to log out of your standard account, you just type in the password and keep working as if you had logged in as an administrator account. It does actually work, and only takes a second to type in the password. Perhaps you should actually try it yourself since you obviously don't know how the system works.

Comment Re:Duh? (Score 2) 228

Maybe it's better now but knowing MS it will not have changed much since 2000 when I tried using my computer as a normal user.

What? Have you not heard about the User Account Control (UAC) that was implemented with Vista? It does exactly what you described happens on the Mac:

It only asks for administrator passwords when doing administrative things like installing programs and changing global settings.

Yep, that's exactly what Windows does. They really have done work on Windows in the last 17 years!

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