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PETA Condemns Pokemon For Promoting Animal Abuse

Unknown Lamer posted about 2 years ago | from the gotta-kill-em-all dept.

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SchrodingerZ writes "PETA, the same group that last November protested Mario for 'wearing fur,' has condemned the Pokémon media franchise and video game series. In light of the recent release of Pokemon Black and White Versions 2, the activist group is protesting that the Pokemon game series 'paints a rosy picture of what amounts to thinly veiled animal abuse.' As many of us know Pokemon is about young children who capture wild animals for the sole purpose of having them battle in non-fatal sparing matches. 'Much like animals in the real world, Pokémon are treated as unfeeling objects and used for such things as human entertainment and as subjects in experiments. The way that Pokémon are stuffed into pokéballs is similar to how circuses chain elephants inside railroad cars and let them out only to perform confusing and often painful tricks that were taught using sharp steel-tipped bullhooks and electric shock prods,' says a statement from the group. Ironically within Pokemon B/W 2 there an organization known as Team Plasma , which deals with taking Pokemon and retuning them to the wild. PETA is so up in arms that they have even created an anti-pokemon parody game in which you play as an escaped Pokemon battling your trainer. I recommend trying it, just for the laughs."

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Funny (5, Informative)

ichthus (72442) | about 2 years ago | (#41591961)

One of the funniest headlines I've read all year. Don't need TFA.

Re:Funny (4, Insightful)

sarysa (1089739) | about 2 years ago | (#41592275)

What's really funny is they waited 15 years to pull this stunt. Pokemon peaked maybe 12 years ago. I think they time their protests specifically to get maximum media coverage hours overall. (can't offload all their examples at once, after all)

Re:Funny (1)

Jeng (926980) | about 2 years ago | (#41592377)

I think this is an excuse to make a silly game and get lots of free publicity from tons of geeks doing what many of them have probably want to have done for years.

Re:Funny (3, Funny)

2.7182 (819680) | about 2 years ago | (#41592491)

It's really high time that they went after Mr. Ed, before the reruns stop airing at least.

Re:Funny (3, Funny)

travbrad (622986) | about 2 years ago | (#41592517)

They were complaining about Mario wearing a raccoon suit a few months ago. At least they have moved on to whining about things that happened in the 90s now.

No, not funny, boring. (5, Insightful)

Frosty Piss (770223) | about 2 years ago | (#41592565)

Honestly, people, why is this story even here? PETA shits out a turd like this once a week. And Slashdot has given them exactly what they wanted.

Obligatory Firefly quote (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41591969)

Well, my days of not taking PETA seriously are certainly coming to a middle.

Re:Obligatory Firefly quote (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about 2 years ago | (#41592159)

Here, start at the beginning [peta.org] . Then go bleach your brain to get rid of the images.

Re:Obligatory Firefly quote (1)

hack slash (1064002) | about 2 years ago | (#41592261)

Sea Kittens?

Whu?

Baby catfish?

first peta (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41591979)

I love eating pussy. Even the occasional cock.

I think PETA exists solely . . . (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41591981)

. . . To make Slashdot nerds scream with fury and generate more page hits. Posting anonymously because enraged nerds are sure to mod me down.

Re:I think PETA exists solely . . . (5, Insightful)

Baloroth (2370816) | about 2 years ago | (#41592279)

The "Westboro Baptist Church" style of marketing? You're actually probably a lot more right than you know. Groups like this stay relevant by generating ever more insane news clips. Oh sure, they probably believe (most of them, anyways) their basic message, but they do and say the really stupid stuff like this because it gets them noticed. And they thrive on attention. They're like children throwing temper tantrums (probably with the same level of maturity). The absolute worst thing you can do to them, and the best thing you can do for society, is to studiously ignore them. It might get worse for a while, but it will be vastly better once they learn that saying things like this won't get them noticed.

Of course, I live in a country where the Kardashians are popular, so that'll never happen.

Re:I think PETA exists solely . . . (5, Interesting)

guises (2423402) | about 2 years ago | (#41592285)

Yes, this does seem to be PETA's primary function these days. Anytime a story comes up about PETA people work themselves into a lather. Even when it's about something as obvious as the fact that cramming animals into tiny balls and then making them fight in gladiatorial style combat may be ethically questionable.

But being a target for hate is a valid role, albeit a rather painful one. People expend their vitriol on PETA and other animals rights groups wind up looking better by comparison. "Hey," they say, "we're not PETA. You can talk to us and consider our suggestions rather than just dismissing them out of hand." Ultimately, partly thanks to PETA acting as lightning rod, the goal is furthered.

Re:I think PETA exists solely . . . (1)

Doctor_Jest (688315) | about 2 years ago | (#41592531)

But.... think of the squirtles!

(That's the only friggin' pokemon I know besides Pikachu...)

Standard disclaimer (1)

Tempestas (2625317) | about 2 years ago | (#41591985)

No Cartoon Animals where harmed during the drawing of this show.

Re:Standard disclaimer (1)

JustOK (667959) | about 2 years ago | (#41592293)

They used ink from irritated octpuses

Re:Standard disclaimer (1)

El_Oscuro (1022477) | about 2 years ago | (#41592369)

Kind of like in Rise of the Triad: "No animals were harmed in the making of ROTT, except for a dog that got his butt spanked for peeing on the carpet." You get to play "Loki, the Carpet Wetting Maestro" in the game.

Fucking Retarded (4, Informative)

Seumas (6865) | about 2 years ago | (#41591989)

Look, we all eschew mistreatment of animals, but aside from the deceit and near criminality of PETA as an organization . . . they're just downright fucking retarded:

The way that Pokémon are stuffed into pokéballs is similar to how circuses chain elephants inside railroad cars and let them out only to perform confusing and often painful tricks that were taught using sharp steel-tipped bullhooks and electric shock prods,'

No. No, they are NOTHING ALIKE. For one thing, elephants are real and pokemon don't actually fucking exist.

Re:Fucking Retarded (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41592067)

I don't like to be a jerk on the internet, but you saying this is retarded reveals that you're an idiot.

PETA doesn't think Pokemon encourages animal cruelty or that Pokemons should be entitled to better living conditions blah blah blah the point of these campaigns is to latch on to something with high visibility & popularity (Mario, Pokemon, etc) to make a media splash, get idiots like you to engage with it (positively or negatively) and in the end watch their video about real animals.

TL;DR: It's not about Pokemons, also don't say the word retarded, ya damn retard

Re:Fucking Retarded (2)

Seumas (6865) | about 2 years ago | (#41592173)

Yes, their shameless media manipulation *is* retarded as is the media who just eats it up every time.

Re:Fucking Retarded (0)

omfgnosis (963606) | about 2 years ago | (#41592665)

Except that's obviously a pick-one list. It can't be "retarded" to successfully manipulate "retarded" media. Either the media manipulation is successful—and the effort is savvy—or it fails—and the media is savvy.

Re:Fucking Retarded (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41592207)

I don't like to be a jerk on the internet, but you saying this is retarded reveals that you're an idiot.

PETA doesn't think Pokemon encourages animal cruelty or that Pokemons should be entitled to better living conditions blah blah blah the point of these campaigns is to latch on to something with high visibility & popularity (Mario, Pokemon, etc) to make a media splash, get idiots like you to engage with it (positively or negatively) and in the end watch their video about real animals.

TL;DR: It's not about Pokemons, also don't say the word retarded, ya damn retard

ROFLMAO

GP's bitch-slap post hurt, huh?

Quit acting retarded.

Re:Fucking Retarded (1)

cbiltcliffe (186293) | about 2 years ago | (#41592211)

Well, I just wasted their bandwidth by playing their stupid game, and completely ignoring (as in, not even loading when it prompted) their video.
I think I'll write a script to continually download the game over and over again, piping it to /dev/null, as I have one of the few actually unlimited internet accounts still in existence. (Yes, it's grandfathered. No, you can't get it anymore.)

Re:Fucking Retarded (1)

rubycodez (864176) | about 2 years ago | (#41592413)

two words: sea kittens. QED, PETA are 'tards.

Re:Fucking Retarded (0)

m0s3m8n (1335861) | about 2 years ago | (#41592081)

Bravo!

Re:Fucking Retarded (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41592109)

Use of the word "retarded" as a derogative term is demeaning (it's the 21st century!), as it's a medical term. Many people continue to fight this point (particularly 13 year olds), but nonetheless..

The flash game serves as an artistic analogy (see: dictionary), and it's actually a very poignant and well-placed one. Everyone understands the Pokemon universe and yet few have questioned the role of the animals in it. Are battles like cockfights? Or are they like baseball games? What rights does a Pokemon have? We don't think about these questions because we're not thinking about Pokemon (animals), we're thinking primarily about humans in our very self-absorbed way.

These are silly questions about a fantasy world - but they illuminate the point in our actual world of actual animals and actual rights.

Re:Fucking Retarded (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41592241)

The correct 21st century slur is 'tarded. e.g. AC's are 'tarded that way.

Re:Fucking Retarded (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41592281)

The correct 21st century slur is 'tarded. e.g. AC's are 'tarded that way.

Alternatively you can use a form of the word derp. e.g. Those guys are derps. That was a very derpish comment on her part. The derp is deep in this article, etc...

Even the single word 'Derp' is enough to convey that someone is being ridiculous, short sighted, and ignorant as is the case with PETA. Perhaps PETA should choose to go after real opponents rather than tilt at windmills.

Re:Fucking Retarded (5, Informative)

Seumas (6865) | about 2 years ago | (#41592267)

The flash game serves as an artistic analogy (see: dictionary), and it's actually a very poignant and well-placed one. Everyone understands the Pokemon universe and yet few have questioned the role of the animals in it. Are battles like cockfights? Or are they like baseball games? What rights does a Pokemon have? We don't think about these questions because we're not thinking about Pokemon (animals), we're thinking primarily about humans in our very self-absorbed way.

You don't condemn or boycott a fucking analogy. Also, you have sympathy for animals, because they actually exist in the real world and computer characters do not and if you don't have sympathy for animals in the real world, you aren't going to have sympathy for computer characters and will never relate one to the other. Also, in such a case, you'd also probably be a sociopath.

OFFTOPIC. But...

You are incorrect, but continue with your political correctness, if you like.

"Retarded" is polite and kinder word the medical community adopted to replace cruel words like "stupid" and "lame" and "dumb" and "imbecile". Those words were hurtful and cruel *and* they were used medically. Since the word "retarded" came to replace the other words, those words have since been brought into every day usage without unintended insult to those who were now clinically "retarded" and no longer clinically "stupid", "lame", "dumb, "imbeciles".

By organizations for the cause, I am told that the correct term is no longer "retarded", but "intellectually disabled". Therefore, "retarded" no longer applies to those who used to be medically "retarded" (and before that, medically lame or stupid or dumb, etc). Therefore, "retarded" now holds the same place that those other words do. No longer applicable to anyone as a medical term and now relegated to a general word slighting another person with regard to alleged intellect.

TL;DR: "Retarded", no matter what some shitty commercial during an episode of Glee tells you, is now linguistically equal to "stupid" and "lame" and "dumb" and "imbecile". If you find one hurtful, then for consistency, you should find them all hurtful.

Re:Fucking Retarded (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41592391)

You're probably really great to have at parties

Re:Fucking Retarded (3, Informative)

mattventura (1408229) | about 2 years ago | (#41592397)

"Retarded" and any similar words just go through an endless cycle. Some new politically correct word will come along (like "intellectually disabled" as you said) and in a few years' time it will start being used as an insult. When they realize this, they'll come up with a new word and the exact same thing will happen.

Re:Fucking Retarded (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41592533)

You watch Glee?

Just curious...

Re:Fucking Retarded (1)

bane2571 (1024309) | about 2 years ago | (#41592273)

PETA's campaign becomes a little weirder when you realise that the pokemon as presented in the cartoon series aren't even animals - they are sentient and even able to directly communicate with humans.

Sure the analogy is still there, I mean they look like cute fluffy bunnies after all but most of the time the relationship is shown as voluntary and symbiotic. Pokemon isn't promoting animal abuse, it's promoting slavery through stockholm syndrome.

Re:Fucking Retarded (1)

rubycodez (864176) | about 2 years ago | (#41592387)

of basically magical spirit-creatures, little demons and angels or fairies or whatever.

Re:Fucking Retarded (1)

Culture20 (968837) | about 2 years ago | (#41592561)

And some Pokemon like clafarie are overtly described as being space aliens.

Re:Fucking Retarded (0)

omfgnosis (963606) | about 2 years ago | (#41592679)

the pokemon as presented in the cartoon series aren't even animals - they are sentient and even able to directly communicate with humans.

So are animals.

Re:Fucking Retarded (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41592407)

Use of the word "retarded" as a derogative term is demeaning (it's the 21st century!), as it's a medical term. Many people continue to fight this point (particularly 13 year olds), but nonetheless..

Using the term "retarded" as hyperbole reminds us how similar we are to those who are clinically retarded. It breaks down the taboo.

This is similar to how a classmate of mine decided to use "laugh at the crippled girl" as her slogan to promote her stand-up comedy. (Actually, I suppose it's sit-down comedy as she has muscular dystrophy.) She uses the term in jest to erode the taboo, but apparently the Cincinnati police do not agree that it's free speech to call herself "crippled" in public. (Her promoter was nearly arrested and they have a court-date set.)

IMHO, taboos dehumanize far more than making light of a condition. Given, using "retarded" as an insult isn't the best way to accomplish that, but it's far better than forbidding anyone from saying the word in a non-clinical context.

1999 called and wants its headline back (4, Insightful)

readandburn (825014) | about 2 years ago | (#41592021)

PETA is probably also listening to Smash Mouth and fearing Y2K.

Re:1999 called and wants its headline back (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41592521)

Hey, look, man, show some respect! It takes a long time to generate the electricity needed to catch up to the modern day! Especially when they refuse to use fossil fuels on the grounds that it promotes cruelty to dinosaurs!

Trolls (4, Insightful)

zicAU (867771) | about 2 years ago | (#41592059)

Don't feed the trolls.

Re:Trolls (5, Funny)

viperidaenz (2515578) | about 2 years ago | (#41592087)

But if you don't feed the trolls they'll die. PETA condemns troll killing.

Re:Trolls (1)

BatGnat (1568391) | about 2 years ago | (#41592125)

Actually trolls re-generate, see DMG...

Re:Trolls (2)

HornWumpus (783565) | about 2 years ago | (#41592259)

What you need is some troll stench and bright UV lights on a 4x4, see 'troll hunter' on netflix (warning: fuzzy foreigners speaking gibberish, requires reading).

Re:Trolls (1)

viperidaenz (2515578) | about 2 years ago | (#41592495)

DMG? Isn't that a disk image format?

Oh yea? Well I condemn PETA. (0)

Narcocide (102829) | about 2 years ago | (#41592063)

I condemn Pokeman too. They're both on my list of infuriatingly stupid things I never want to hear or think about again.

"Wearing fur"? Seriously? (4, Insightful)

flydpnkrtn (114575) | about 2 years ago | (#41592093)

How is Mario ever "wearing fur"? Are they referring to Racoon Mario? When he touches the Leaf, he becomes a fucking racoon. He's not "wearing a racoon suit, cosplay style," he physically transforms into a fucking racoon

I mean damn PETA come on, this is why people start thinking you're just a bunch of nutjobs....

Re:"Wearing fur"? Seriously? (1)

roc97007 (608802) | about 2 years ago | (#41592183)

I'm not sure I'd want to be anywhere near a four foot ...er... amorous racoon...

Re:"Wearing fur"? Seriously? (1)

JDeane (1402533) | about 2 years ago | (#41592689)

Staring Ron Jeremy? He wouldn't need very much makeup or a fur suit even... He even kind or resembles Mario too.

Re:"Wearing fur"? Seriously? (1)

Orcris (2652275) | about 2 years ago | (#41592189)

I was wondering that too...

Re:"Wearing fur"? Seriously? (1)

Nkwe (604125) | about 2 years ago | (#41592203)

He's not "wearing a racoon suit, cosplay style,"

What if he was wearing a raccoon suit, cosplay style? I mean raccoon is good eatin' and why would you waste the fur?

Re:"Wearing fur"? Seriously? (1)

Jeng (926980) | about 2 years ago | (#41592593)

I thought it was the pelt that was the valuable part of the raccoon, never ate one to know how they taste.

Ok, the wikipedia entry regarding eating raccoon is interesting. Coolidge ate his pet raccoon for Thanksgiving one year, definitely different times.

Re:"Wearing fur"? Seriously? (1)

Jeng (926980) | about 2 years ago | (#41592605)

Coolidge ate his pet raccoon for Thanksgiving one year, definitely different times.

Ok, misread that a little, still interesting.

Re:"Wearing fur"? Seriously? (2)

CRCulver (715279) | about 2 years ago | (#41592219)

How is Mario ever "wearing fur"? Are they referring to Racoon Mario? When he touches the Leaf, he becomes a fucking racoon. He's not "wearing a racoon suit, cosplay style," he physically transforms into a fucking racoon

I haven't played Super Mario Bros. 3 in two decades, but I'm fairly sure that the game's manual termed that ability "the Racoon suit", just as the underwater thing was "the Frog suit". The game's Wikipedia article [wikipedia.org] seems to agree.

Re:"Wearing fur"? Seriously? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41592229)

No, this [peta.org] is sufficient.

Re:"Wearing fur"? Seriously? (1)

Seumas (6865) | about 2 years ago | (#41592277)

Are they referring to Racoon Mario?

Yes.

When he touches the Leaf, he becomes a fucking racoon.

Yes.

Re:"Wearing fur"? Seriously? (4, Informative)

sqrt(2) (786011) | about 2 years ago | (#41592451)

They are referring to the Tanooki suit [mariowiki.com] .

I support PETA... (3, Funny)

Zapotek (1032314) | about 2 years ago | (#41592103)

...as of 3mins ago and will keep supporting them in hopes of seeing more headlines like these, pure comedy. Thank you PETA.

I dont know why PETA want cows extinct? (2)

BatGnat (1568391) | about 2 years ago | (#41592115)

If PETA had their way, we would not eat meat, nor use leather. No farmer would keep cows around just for the hell of it. Lots of dead cows.....

Re:I dont know why PETA want cows extinct? (1)

erlegreer (1994842) | about 2 years ago | (#41592217)

Actually, not "dead", just lots of cows not intentionally bred.

Re:I dont know why PETA want cows extinct? (1)

Baloroth (2370816) | about 2 years ago | (#41592331)

And also dead, because most of them would end up ripped to shreds by predators, who would flourish if cows and other herd animals were allowed to roam free.

Re:I dont know why PETA want cows extinct? (3, Insightful)

rubycodez (864176) | about 2 years ago | (#41592395)

but that's exactly what is happening, we've been cooking those bovine for hundreds of thousands of years. we are their predators. it's natural, it's right.

Re:I dont know why PETA want cows extinct? (1)

erlegreer (1994842) | about 2 years ago | (#41592445)

I agree completely. Animal lovers don't seem to get that humans are just another natural predator. Some animals develop claws, speed, etc for survival. Humans developed complex brains that can outsmart lower animals with cunning, weapons, etc.

Re:I dont know why PETA want cows extinct? (1)

reve_etrange (2377702) | about 2 years ago | (#41592623)

I don't think the "natural predator" line works on factory farmed beef.

Re:I dont know why PETA want cows extinct? (2)

erlegreer (1994842) | about 2 years ago | (#41592673)

A simple fly eats his meal on the spot without much forethought beyond following a smell. He might agree with you, but in regards to the advanced, technical, cheating spider who meticulously spins his death web, premeditating his trapping, killing, preservation, and storage of food for later. Would we be more of a natural predator if we just waited for cows to get caught in our sticky ropes?

(I really know nothing about flies, so someone feel free to rip my guesswork to shreds.)

Re:I dont know why PETA want cows extinct? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41592523)

Actually, not "dead", just lots of cows not intentionally bred.

Wrong.

Do a little research into PETA's philosophy of running animal shelters.

It's literally "KILL 'EM ALL!"

Yes, it really is.

Re:I dont know why PETA want cows extinct? (1)

rubycodez (864176) | about 2 years ago | (#41592405)

you mean the cuddly cud-chewing prarie puppies?

Re:I dont know why PETA want cows extinct? (1)

Longjmp (632577) | about 2 years ago | (#41592463)

We've got to stop the killing now.
Probably 99% of animals are eaten alive. We need to kill all whales to prevent them from eating billions of plankton!
(and guppies from eating worms: kill all guppies!)

Next shocking truth: 100% of animals are dying alive!

Holy shit.

Reboot Reference (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41592141)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb48YDxhPkg&t=1m53s

old joke

April Fools was a long time ago... Wow. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41592147)

I'm amazed I'm seeing something like this and it's not April 1st.

How ironic (5, Informative)

Sydin (2598829) | about 2 years ago | (#41592155)

If anybody at PETA had actually bothered to play Pokemon Black and White for more than five minutes, they'd have met a group of villains named Team Plasma. This group was a parody of real world "revolutionary" groups like the Black Panthers or PETA, who attempt to present themselves as fighting for a worthy cause, when in reality they're just after personal gain and a feelings of self-satisfaction. Team Plasma tries to convince you the player that your treatment of pokemon is cruel, and that Pokemon hate people as a result. Yet the real message of the story is learning that catching a pokemon isn't just about stuffing it into a ball and forcing it to fight: It's about building a bond of trust and mutual friendship between the pokemon and trainer, which if properly fostered allows them to accomplish anything together. If anything, PETA should be commending Pokemon for it's progressive attitude. But I guess that doesn't make for as eye-catching a headline.

Re:How ironic (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41592323)

You are forgetting that PETA believes animals are better off dead [huffingtonpost.ca] than in the care of humans.

Re:How ironic (2)

Fned (43219) | about 2 years ago | (#41592357)

If anybody at PETA had actually bothered to play Pokemon Black and White for more than five minutes, they'd have met a group of villains named Team Plasma.

If you'd looked at the game link for, like, literally one second, you'd have seen the Pikachu-holding-a-sign-saying-"I support Team Plasma" graphic.

Re:How ironic (1)

l0ungeb0y (442022) | about 2 years ago | (#41592389)

Yet the real message of the story is learning that catching a pokemon isn't just about stuffing it into a ball and forcing it to fight: It's about building a bond of trust and mutual friendship between the pokemon and trainer, which if properly fostered allows them to accomplish anything together

Which is just another form of animal abuse to PETA.
They believe no one should have a pet, and that domesticating animals is just another form of abuse.
Hell, some PETA members even think that damaging insect habitats during construction is akin to genocide.

PETA is nothing but a gaggle of whack-jobs.
But, they put naked chicks on parade, so I give them a pass.

Re:How ironic (1)

TsuruchiBrian (2731979) | about 2 years ago | (#41592529)

Not defending PETA or anything, but... The idea that the human/pokemon team can "accomplish anything together", still involves one individual capturing another against it's will and using it for it's own ends, which in the case of pokemon is to use them to fight eachother. The real life equivalent of pokemon is cock fighting. This is quite different from the relationship between a boxer and his coach, where the boxer has decided to be on a team with his coach (hopefully) without coercion, either party is free to terminate the relationship, and the boxer isn't forced to live in a small red ball. Of course there are differences. The obvious difference is that animals like chickens are lower life forms than people, and therefore principles like non-coercion do not apply to them because they don't have the same rights as people. PETA would disagree, and that's why they are a fringe group. Even though other animals are lower life forms, many modern societies have decided that using animals to fight is an unacceptable form of abuse. The other difference is that pokemon is not reality, and is therefore not subject to the same criticisms. For example, it doesn't seem like pokemon really die or are even subjected to excruciating pain as a result of being forced to fight (because it's a kids TV show). I don't see any reason that kids need to be exposed only to realistic depictions, so I don't have a problem with pokemon. Look at something like star wars where the droids are basically slaves even on the good side of the conflict. They are clearly people in the sense that they have feelings, desires, can feel pain, etc. Their lives are not valued. They are used as means to an end (i.e. tools), even by primary protagonists. Why is star wars not criticized for promoting slavery? Because it's just a movie, and we are capable of suspending disbelief for 2 hours. We don't need to justify the slavery in star wars by showing why droids are ok to objectify if they existed in real life. We don't need to justify disney movies that have kings and queens and princesses by showing why real life autocracies are sometimes ok. We don't need to justify vigilante justice movies by showing why it is ok to sometimes take the law into your own hands in real life. It's ok for something in a movie to be ok, but be wrong in real life. We don't need to justify things that happen in the movies or tv shows we watch. If we did, PETA would be right.

eat 'em (1)

roc97007 (608802) | about 2 years ago | (#41592167)

Wow. In a completely unrelated note, I just read yesterday in, I think, a wiki on pokemon, that the original backstory points out that in the pokemon world there are no conventional farm animals. Zero. So what do the human inhabitants eat? Apparently, they eat Pokemon. Hopefully, the more appetizing-looking ones. Let's see what PETA does with that.

But more on-topic, I think I shall create an anti-anti-pokemon game, where you beat up children, take their pokemon, release same into the wild, and see how long it takes for them to starve to death.

And then the anti-anti-anti-pokemon game would have some organization exterminate all domestic pokemon "for their own good".

Re:eat 'em (1)

Culture20 (968837) | about 2 years ago | (#41592375)

They do eat some dairy products from the more bovine Pokemon, and think I've seen some of the fish Pokemon for sale in markets (don't quote me). But Pokemon food is exclusively made from herbs, nuts, berries, grains, etc. and even the Pokemon with big slavering canines happily gobble up the vegan Pokemon food.

People Eating Tasty Animals (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41592215)

YUM!

Models supporting PETA? (4, Funny)

Vinegar Joe (998110) | about 2 years ago | (#41592251)

Will they be nude?

Re:Models supporting PETA? (3, Funny)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about 2 years ago | (#41592467)

Pikanude! I choose you!

Attention whoring (2)

ChromeAeonium (1026952) | about 2 years ago | (#41592289)

This reminds me of when groups like Greenpeace complains about something popular just to get attention. It's just some activist noise making about something topical to bring attention to themselves. What I find funny is that by pulling these stupid stunts, all they are doing is making themselves (and their cause) look bad. Maybe the next time someone hears about an actual legitimate issue in animal welfare they'll think of this and pay it no mind ('Hey, isn't that the same stuff those wackos who complained about Pokemon were going on about?') . The way they trade credibility for publicity (not that they had much credibility to start with) makes me think PETA cares more about their own 15 seconds of fame than actually bringing any benefit to animals.

And by the way, Pokemon are clearly partners, not slaves. The games make generally that pretty clear and go on ad nauseam about poke-friendship or something like that, in fact, something about humans being mean to their Pokemon was even a central part of the plot of the last games, not that any of this is relevant if causing a fuss is your only actual goal.

Talk about stupid... (1)

meerling (1487879) | about 2 years ago | (#41592295)

PETA.
Ok, now to point out, what everyone that has watched even 1 episode of Pokemon or actually played any of the Pokemon games for more than 10 minutes, it's about caring for your pokemon and building a relationship with them.
As to stuffing them into balls, considering something the size of an elephant or more can fit into one of those little balls and still not weigh more than a few ounces, they aren't being "stuffed" in. It's apparently some kind of pocket dimension.
On top of that, IT'S A CARTOON AND VIDEO GAME AND IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO REALITY!

Once again PETA proves that they don't get it and aren't just stupid, they are stooopid with three Os.

Caring about (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41592301)

PETA propaganda only propagates the idiocy more. Let them condemn anything they want. We just have to not care, at all.

Hypocrits. Fuck PETA (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41592303)

PETA's Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad History of Killing Animals [theatlantic.com]

In 2011, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) behaved in a regrettably consistent manner: it euthanized the overwhelming majority (PDF) of dogs and cats that it accepted into its shelters. Out of 760 dogs impounded, they killed 713, arranged for 19 to be adopted, and farmed out 36 to other shelters (not necessarily "no kill" ones). As for cats, they impounded 1,211, euthanized 1,198, transferred eight, and found homes for a grand total of five. PETA also took in 58 other companion animals -- including rabbits. It killed 54 of them.

NB that in Virginia, stats only need to be kept for animals taken in with the intent of putting them up for adoption.

Think that's a fluke?

Get this:

PETA's "Thank You" for Killing Shelter Pets [slashdot.org]

When the No Kill shelter in Shelby County, Kentucky, recently announced that they had run out of space -- and were hence going to have to start killing healthy dogs and cats -- officials received a nice basket of gourmet cookies, with a note signed by PETA: "Thank you for doing the right thing for animals."

Surely I'm joking here. This must be a weak stab at satire. Many people have written about Ingrid Newkirk's vicious pet-killing program -- her organization has personally liquidated over 27,000 animals -- but PETA has always responded with hurt and outrage (and lawyers). People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals don't celebrate killing, goes the lie -- they see it as a regrettable necessity.

Surely Newkirk wouldn't be so foolish as to express her ghoulish agenda in this way, as a naked statement accompanied by a gift. No group of self-styled vegans would publicly wed their name to the Pro-Kill Equation: butchery = the right thing.

Well, Nathan Winograd (who developed the somewhat different No Kill Equation) reported on this in detail, and I suggest you examine his photographic evidence. A lovely basket of "Allison's Gourmet Cookies" -- shipped fresh from California -- with a handwritten note signed: "The PETA Staff." If you'd like further evidence, and to read the reverse side of this charming note, Shelby County No Kill Mission has produced an affecting video about the episode.

To understand just how grotesque this is, you have to know a little bit about Shelby. This is not simply one of America's fifty-one No Kill communities. It has a special significance: Last year's save rate sent Shelby County to the top -- it is now one of the most successful examples of No Kill in the nation.

The last animal killed for lack of space in Shelby County was on May 27, 2008. Since then, they've enjoyed a save rate that is almost precisely the inverse of PETA's kill rate. Whereas PETA slaughters 97% of the pets delivered to their hellish "Shelter of Last Resort," in 2011 Shelby saved 98.52% of the cats and 94.46% of the dogs in their care.

Shelby County runs an open admission shelter: They do not turn animals away. They have an impeccable history -- despite PETA's dire predictions, their No Kill community has never been associated with hoarding or animal abuse of any kind. (In fact, none of the legitimate No Kill organizations has been guilty of these crimes, but that's another story.) The Shelby program has a tiny budget: $147,000. Compare that to PETA's annual plunder: over $32.3 million from unsuspecting donors.

Re:Hypocrits. Fuck PETA (1)

jcr (53032) | about 2 years ago | (#41592431)

Mod Parent UP!

-jcr

Critical problem (5, Funny)

PPH (736903) | about 2 years ago | (#41592351)

PETA needs to turn its attention toward the care and feeding of abandoned Tamagotchi [wikipedia.org] . These were purchased for children who, after having grown up, have abandoned their pets to the bottoms of toy chests or the back of sock drawers. PETA needs to fund a reserve for forgotten Tamagotchi.

Right after they get their Save the Skeets [cartalk.com] campaign off the ground.

What about Carrotmon (1)

Murdoch5 (1563847) | about 2 years ago | (#41592353)

Peta sure is one sided, what about the cells in Vegetables, they have the same rights as humans, what about single celled yeast or atoms!!!!! Those monsters ( Peta ) don't care about them.

It gets worse, BTW. (2)

jcr (53032) | about 2 years ago | (#41592421)

As batshit crazy as this is, it's not the worst example of PETA making themselves look like the brain-dead nut cult that they are. The crazy bitch who runs that group wrote a letter to Arafat once complaining about the PLO using a donkey laden with explosives to try to kill people in Israel. No complaint about killing the PEOPLE, mind you.

If you're an animal lover, support the ASPCA.

-jcr

Re:It gets worse, BTW. (2)

reve_etrange (2377702) | about 2 years ago | (#41592647)

I only disagree on one point: condemning Pokemon isn't that crazy. If Pokemon were real, fighting them for sport would be illegal, at least in developed countries. It is really unlikely that any little kids decided to become cock fighters based on the fun times they had playing gameboy.

Same group that promotes beastiality (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41592441)

Just remember folks protesting animal cruelty is only viable if you perform such cruelties.
http://idle.slashdot.org/story/11/09/19/164202/peta-to-launch-pornography-website

its so cOLD here (1)

Chompjil (2746865) | about 2 years ago | (#41592453)

How many year's since Red and Blue again?

PETA is passe (2)

avm (660) | about 2 years ago | (#41592459)

This is an organisation whose time came and went, but doesn't realise it and is futilely thrashing at anything that'll generate a headline containing their name. People are more aware of the issues they once touted, but are filtering out their sensationalist over the top antics that often obscure their message.

Has beens, right up there with the *AA.

Abusing humans (2)

Murdoch5 (1563847) | about 2 years ago | (#41592461)

So Peta hates animal abuse but apparently love abuse on humans. That games shows a drunk human getting his ass kicked and abused by an animal, that is more retarded then the original complaint. I guess we should be worried about the harm to fictional animals not real ones.

Peta is a joke (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41592483)

Are you fucking kidding me ? Now peta has to rape my childhood and discriminate against anime? Fuck you peta, fuck you.

Facewall (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41592553)

When a simple facepalm isn't enough.

PETA Kills (5, Informative)

djl4570 (801529) | about 2 years ago | (#41592569)

PETA 'killed more than 95 per cent of adoptable dogs and cats in its care last year' shocking new report says [dailymail.co.uk]

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals killed more than 95 per cent of animals in its care last year at a Virginia shelter, a shocking new report states. ...
Records from 2011 alone state that of the 1,992 cats and dogs received, 34 were transferred, and 24 were adopted. The remaining 1,911 were put down, the report states.

Read the rest at the link. If you want to know more get Penn and Teller's Bullshit! on DVD and watch the PETA episode.

ROLF (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41592583)

So what

Animal abusers are sick. (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41592595)

How someone treats another living thing when that living thing is powerless to
defend itself is a very good test of the mental wellness of that person.

Anyone who thinks it is "ok" or "cool" to abuse animals needs to be removed
from society.

And all you little jerkoffs who think all this is something to joke about
need your nuts kicked so hard they come out the top of your little dickeating
skulls.

.

"Sparring" has two "r"s (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41592661)

Get a life.

Hypocrisy from Forbes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41592687)

It's ironic that the article author doesn't link to the PETA statement to reduce its visibility, yet increases its visibility by writing an article about it. Nice hypocrisy Forbes.

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