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Lionsgate Sues Limetorrents, Played.to, and Others Over Expendables 3 Leak

Soulskill posted about 2 months ago | from the barn-doors-and-horses dept.

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hypnosec writes Lionsgate, the film company in charge of distribution for Expendables 3, has filed a lawsuit against unknown individuals who shared a DVD-level copy of the movie and six file-sharing sites known to have the links through which copies of the movies are being downloaded illegally. An advance copy of Expendables 3 was leaked online in July, and it was downloaded as many as 180,000 times in just 24 hours. The movie, which is releasing on August 15, is said to have crossed two million downloads already. In addition to the lawsuit, the Dept. of Homeland Security is on the case.

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The DHS Is On The Case (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592201)

For a civil matter relating to a MOVIE? Are you fucking kidding me? What the fuck, America?

Re:The DHS Is On The Case (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592213)

It might sound stupid (and it is) but the DHS is the unholy amalgamation of just about every investigative and enforcement body in the United States government. So it's not that the DHS is investigating, but one of the agencies under the DHS.

Re:The DHS Is On The Case (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592231)

Don't worry citizen, if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear from DHS.

Re:The DHS Is On The Case (5, Funny)

Kalium70 (3437049) | about 2 months ago | (#47592945)

DHS: "we must protect the fatherland" -- er, homeland.

Re:The DHS Is On The Case (3, Interesting)

Lumpy (12016) | about 2 months ago | (#47593505)

Dont joke, they have a Homeland Youth program in the school systems.

Re:The DHS Is On The Case (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592257)

It's supposed to be Merika, Fuck Yeah!

Re:The DHS Is On The Case (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592435)

shut the fuck up

Re:The DHS Is On The Case (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592571)

shut the fuck up, Yeah!

FTFY, Yeah! On the subject, CBP (U.S. Customs and Border Protection) is part of the DHS, so the question becomes "why does a baker bake, a painter paint and a lecturer lecture?"

Re:The DHS Is On The Case (4, Insightful)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | about 2 months ago | (#47592699)

No, the question is still, "WTF is a civil suit being investigated and prosecuted by the FEDERAL FUCKING GOVERNMENT!?!?!"

Re:The DHS Is On The Case (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47593279)

Because monies.

Duh. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47593429)

The government is composed of, and serves, the Aristocracy.

This happens to *all* countries over time. No matter how they are founded, they become more aristocratic, with the wealthy gaining ever more control over governance, and governance serving their needs rather than the needs of the people at large.

The only exceptions to this rule are governments that simply start out that way.

Any really, why in the world would anyone expect otherwise? Wealth is real economic power. Governance is the exercise of power. This is how humans do things.

Re:The DHS Is On The Case (4, Insightful)

NoKaOi (1415755) | about 2 months ago | (#47592279)

So, the US government has pretty much taken the worst parts of the original idea of Fascism as described in the original Fascist Manifesto (corporatism) along with the worst parts of what Italian Fascism actually tried to be (totalitarianism, rule by elites).

Re:The DHS Is On The Case (3, Insightful)

murdocj (543661) | about 2 months ago | (#47592913)

The problem with this sort of hysteria is that it makes people forget how horrible true fascism is. It conflates looking for illegal downloaders with rounding up and slaughtering millions of people. Can we save the rhetoric for when we need it?

Re:The DHS Is On The Case (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592953)

"Nothing to see here. Move along citizen. It could be worse so why bother trying to make it better."

Re:The DHS Is On The Case (2)

ganjadude (952775) | about 2 months ago | (#47593015)

not what he was saying, what he was saying is lets not jump to the extreme comparisons because it is apples and oranges. having said that this is still fucked up and needs to be addressed

Re:The DHS Is On The Case (2)

gTsiros (205624) | about 2 months ago | (#47593029)

to paraphrase a genius:

it starts with your thumb... AND THEN IT GETS FUN

in other words, baby steps.

Re:The DHS Is On The Case (2)

JaredOfEuropa (526365) | about 2 months ago | (#47593161)

Italian Fascism had very little to do with rounding up and slaughtering of millions. I think you're confusing fascist Italy with nazi Germany.

With that said, the USA is a far cry from a totalitarian fascist state; they certainly have not taken the underlying ideology to heart. However, there certainly are some aspects that are creeping in the practice if not the ideals of US government, it seems. That was GPs point, I believe.

Re: The DHS Is On The Case (4, Insightful)

jargonburn (1950578) | about 2 months ago | (#47593287)

Can we save the rhetoric for when we need it?

By the time we "need" it, it will be too late.

Re:The DHS Is On The Case (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47593381)

Nazism was one particular implementation of fascism, numbnuts. The "rounding up and slaughtering of millions of people" has not featured in the vast majority of fascist states. FWIW, my family came from one: Spain. Spain under Franco, FWIW, was sustained for so long by American public and private investment, because by golly did he hate the Commies!

What is more, several states involved in "rounding up and slaughtering [millions / hundreds of thousands] of people" were not fascist.

Summary of today's lesson: "fascism", like "communism", "terrorism", "totalitarianism", "Orwellian", and all those other Internet Political Debate buzzwords, have specific meanings beyond "stuff I don't like".

Re:The DHS Is On The Case (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47593665)

The problem with this sort of hysteria is that it makes people forget how horrible true fascism is. It conflates looking for illegal downloaders with rounding up and slaughtering millions of people. Can we save the rhetoric for when we need it?

"First, they came for the downloaders..."

Re:The DHS Is On The Case (5, Informative)

jklovanc (1603149) | about 2 months ago | (#47592503)

The reproduction and distribution of copyright material is a criminal as well as a civil matter. ICE [ice.gov] is tasked with investigating copyright infringement [iprcenter.gov] in the US. The fact that they are now under the umbrella of the DHS is just sensationalism.

Re:The DHS Is On The Case (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592543)

The reproduction and distribution of copyright material is a criminal as well as a civil matter.

Which is already absolutely insane.

The fact that they are now under the umbrella of the DHS is just sensationalism.

The DHS is something that never should've been created.

Re:The DHS Is On The Case (1)

jklovanc (1603149) | about 2 months ago | (#47592777)

The DHS is something that never should've been created.

You would prefer multiple agencies duplicating work, not coordinating operations, not sharing information, leaving gaps between organizations, etc.

Re:The DHS Is On The Case (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592783)

Yes, because it keeps the powers separated, as they SHOULD be.

Re:The DHS Is On The Case (1)

russotto (537200) | about 2 months ago | (#47593363)

You would prefer multiple agencies duplicating work, not coordinating operations, not sharing information, leaving gaps between organizations, etc.

You bet. If we're to have tyranny, it's best tempered by incompetence.

Re:The DHS Is On The Case (1)

jklovanc (1603149) | about 2 months ago | (#47592787)

Which is already absolutely insane.

Are you saying theft of intellectual property should be a civil matter while theft of real property should be a criminal matter? Why should there be less protection for intellectual property that physical property. They both have monetary value.

Re: The DHS Is On The Case (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592891)

it is copyright infringement, not theft. monetary value has no bearing.

Re:The DHS Is On The Case (4, Insightful)

Loki_1929 (550940) | about 2 months ago | (#47592933)

Theft of intellectual property should be a criminal matter.

Copyright infringement should be a civil matter. Since This article is talking about a movie being copied and shared (copyright infringement), it should be strictly a civil matter. Of course, the government being the enforcement wing of large companies, the full weight and force of the Federal government will extend its infinite reach across the globe to annihilate anyone who so much as thinks about infringing on the absolute rights of the government's benevolent benefactors.

Re:The DHS Is On The Case (3, Insightful)

popoutman (189497) | about 2 months ago | (#47593003)

Agreed!

You can't steal intellectual property.
You can copy and use intellectual property inappropriately, sure.
But you sure as hell cannot steal it, and as such it should not be involving the DHS or Federal Government in any way. But these are the people you voted in, and the rest of us have to live with it unfortunately..

Re:The DHS Is On The Case (1)

jeIIomizer (3670945) | about 2 months ago | (#47593005)

"intellectual property" is nothing but a propaganda term to begin with.

Re:The DHS Is On The Case (1)

angel'o'sphere (80593) | about 2 months ago | (#47593047)

Of course it can be stolen.

The simplest case: you have only one manuscript and no back ups, I steal it, it is gone.

The complex case: I destroy your ability to market it, make money from it, use it as you feel fit. Your option to use your 'property' in a way you can use 'property' is gone, hence: it is stolen. And funnily it is worse than stolen, as I can not even give it back to you.

Hint: the relevant laws are around 'intellectual PROPERTY' because it is a property it can be stolen, you can be deprived from it etc. Otherwise lawmakers had realized decades ago: 'oh, it is not property ... it is something else, we need to name it different'

If it is still correct in our times to call it 'property' is something completely different.

Re:The DHS Is On The Case (1)

angel'o'sphere (80593) | about 2 months ago | (#47593033)

I'm not sure how that is right now in Europe after all the changes in law over recent years.

However 'simple copyright infringement' is a civil case, no one except the copyright owner can sue etc.

However in this case it is by far not that simple: an original DVD was leaked, that implies it was stolen. Depending how you want to turn this it is fraud, industrial espionage or simply theft. Depending who did it, a high ranking executive or simply a guy distributing the mail taking his chance or by someone who intentionally wanted to damage his (former) employer financially, it is a complete different crime. Yes, a crime, worth being prosecuted!

Problem solved! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592205)

Now, everyone will have to buy the actual movie. I'm sure this will work in Lionsgate's favor. After all, suing people and websites has been very successful in making copyright infringement vanish, yes?

Make sure to sue them for billions of dollars in 'damages' (not gaining counts as damage) that you can't ever prove happened.

Re:Problem solved! (3, Insightful)

Mister Transistor (259842) | about 2 months ago | (#47592273)

Their biggest loss will be the revenue lost from all the people that will get to see ahead of time what a turd this will be - BEFORE the Hollywood Bullshit Mega-Hype Machine has a chance to launch the hypnotic media assault that will try to trick the masses into thinking it's a good movie.

Re:Problem solved! (1)

I'm New Around Here (1154723) | about 2 months ago | (#47592419)

Well, we enjoyed the first two. But I will wait for the DVD, just as I did with the first two.

Re:Problem solved! (1)

peragrin (659227) | about 2 months ago | (#47592733)

I won't even buy the DVD. for 90% of the movies i watch I wait for the $3.99 video on demand in standard definition. I have a nice HD TV but since most movies don't make use of it why should I bother paying more for something that should be standard by now.

Re:Problem solved! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592597)

So the message I'm getting here is that I should probably download the movie?

This is the most hype I've been exposed to for this movie.. Now I'm sold, download started.

Thanks for the heads up!

There's a "Has-Bens 3"? (0)

Animats (122034) | about 2 months ago | (#47592219)

I didn't even know there was a Has-Bens 2.

Re:There's a "Has-Bens 3"? (1)

ThePhilips (752041) | about 2 months ago | (#47593405)

That's probably why they have leaked it.

Now they use the court case to both play innocent and maintain presence in the news.

It's a win-win for them.

Methinks the maiden protesteth too much (1, Interesting)

waddgodd (34934) | about 2 months ago | (#47592223)

I'll LMAO when the reveal comes that the leaked copy turns out to have little, if anything, to do with the actual movie they release

Re:Methinks the maiden protesteth too much (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592463)

Did you put even a single second of thought into this? Why would they spend a bunch of money creating a "fake" movie that they can leak to torrent sites?

Either:
(a) It is much worse than the real thing, and it will generate lots of negative press that stops potential customers from going to see the movie
(b) It is much better than the real thing, and it will generate a PR shitstorm over the fact that they put the worse version in theatres
(c) It is neither significantly better nor significantly worse than the real thing, and what did they gain versus simply leaking the real thing? (Or just, you know, not leaking anything)

Re:Methinks the maiden protesteth too much (1)

Dogtanian (588974) | about 2 months ago | (#47593109)

Why would they spend a bunch of money creating a "fake" movie that they can leak to torrent sites?

He didn't actually claim that they would. Quite likely he meant that it could well have been one of those cases where an early version of the movie was heavily reworked before release (including being re-edited, having scenes dropped or reshot and/or entirely new ones added) for various reasons.

Re:Methinks the maiden protesteth too much (1)

mpe (36238) | about 2 months ago | (#47592477)

I'll LMAO when the reveal comes that the leaked copy turns out to have little, if anything, to do with the actual movie they release.

Alternativly maybe someone should just tell them that "sitting on" a completed movie might not be the most sensible of business models in the first place.

Re:Methinks the maiden protesteth too much (3, Insightful)

tigersha (151319) | about 2 months ago | (#47592509)

Or maybe someone should tell you that if they spend millions of dollars on something it is their right to sit on it as long as they want to. Since when is it your right to tell them what to do? Do you think you will be happy if Lionsgate takes your personal documents with the argument that you should not be sitting on it for so long?

Re:Methinks the maiden protesteth too much (2)

Dogtanian (588974) | about 2 months ago | (#47593159)

Or maybe someone should tell you that if they spend millions of dollars on something it is their right to sit on it as long as they want to. Since when is it your right to tell them what to do?

People are entitled to "tell" them what they like. (*) They don't have to like, nor follow that advice, but the OP is perfectly entitled to free speech on the matter- that doesn't infringe upon their right of ownership as you seem to think it does.

They're free to do what they want with their intellectual property, but they're not exempt from having people be able to say that what they're doing with it is stupid. Your implication appears to be a not-so-distant relative of the ever-popular "If you don't like it, you don't have to buy it, so you have no right to criticise it" fallacy [slashdot.org] .

Do you think you will be happy if Lionsgate takes your personal documents with the argument that you should not be sitting on it for so long?

No, I think Lionsgate would be entitled to tell him what they liked, and he'd be entitled to ignore their advice and tell them to p**s off if he so wished.

(*) Not, realistically, that they're likely to even notice- let alone care- about what a random person on a geek website is advising them, but that's beside the point here.

Re:Methinks the maiden protesteth too much (1)

mpe (36238) | about 2 months ago | (#47593667)

Or maybe someone should tell you that if they spend millions of dollars on something it is their right to sit on it as long as they want to.

The question isn't if they have the right to do so. It's if doing so is a sensible way to go about making money from movies. Which is ostensivly what Liongate is doing.Where rights may come into it is that courts in places such as Canada take a very dim view of suing for copyright infringement in relation to products which arn't "on sale" in the first place.

Re:Methinks the maiden protesteth too much (1)

Richard_at_work (517087) | about 2 months ago | (#47592677)

Releasing all the "summer blockbusters" at the same time is an even worse business model...

Re:Methinks the maiden protesteth too much (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47593701)

Yeah, that's a real knee slapper

homeland (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592225)

In addition to the lawsuit, the Dept. of Homeland Security is on the case.

Yes, musn't let those t'urrists violate copyright, or they win!

Re:homeland (1)

I'm New Around Here (1154723) | about 2 months ago | (#47592429)

Yeah. Damn tourists.

Department of Homeland Security (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592241)

Department of Homeland Security! seriously?

Glad to Know (4, Funny)

hduff (570443) | about 2 months ago | (#47592247)

I'm glad to know that DHS has solved all the critical security issues of our nation so that they can devote their resources to Expendables 3.

I feel safe and secure now.

Re:Glad to Know (1)

I'm New Around Here (1154723) | about 2 months ago | (#47592431)

Maybe the movie reveals how someone can sneak across the border without getting caught. That's a DHS concern.

Re:Glad to Know (-1, Flamebait)

Mashiki (184564) | about 2 months ago | (#47592679)

Maybe the movie reveals how someone can sneak across the border without getting caught. That's a DHS concern.

That's easy. Be from anywhere south of the US border, mexician, chinese, brazillian, doesn't matter. Say you're being oppressed/etc, and you're wanting amnesty. Oh double points if you belong to a gang like MS13. Then it's the easy life while the current administration turns their back to the issue, and claims anyone who's standing up against the border being over run is a racist.

Re:Glad to Know (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592803)

Awww, it's cute how you threw every Fox News talking point into one sentence!

Re:Glad to Know (1)

aNonnyMouseCowered (2693969) | about 2 months ago | (#47592773)

But don't you know that piracy promotes terrorism? Or maybe the DHS got the wrong definition of piracy, you know, the one where people actually get raped and killed.

Re:Glad to Know (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592877)

they just wanted to make sure the movie wasn't about *them*

Business model (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592277)

Their business model is releasing crap and then suing when it hits the torrent sites.

A marketing plot to promote another movie (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592313)

Meh. A marketing plot of Lionsgate to promote another movie. At the same time that they victimize themselves while criminalizing their clients.

Don't mind that those dreaded pirates helps them to rake so much money from people's pockets.

In Soviet USA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592327)

It is the government body on the leash of private corporation

Corruption in USA reached new levels (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592331)

Using government agencies for private investigative work. How more corrupt can you be?

And they don't even hide it anymore. People in the USA are just slaves of corporations nothing more.

Yes! Copyright terrorism must be stopped! (1, Interesting)

gweihir (88907) | about 2 months ago | (#47592375)

And surely these evil scum will get what they deserve when they and all their loved ones are killed in a justifiable drone-strike!

Seriously, this is what a police-state looks like, there is no way to deny it anymore.

Re:Yes! Copyright terrorism must be stopped! (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592563)

Imagine if you were an author who wrote a book... with said book being pirated before it even was released, only to be downloaded a couple million times. How would that make you feel?

I imagine there is a balance of publicity, and the lost revenue by the number of pirates who don't end up seeing/purchasing the movie in the future.

However, I do think we should cap it at one year jail; 3 times the costs of what's pirated; plus court costs, when it comes to piracy.

Re:Yes! Copyright terrorism must be stopped! (4, Insightful)

denzacar (181829) | about 2 months ago | (#47592621)

Imagine if you were an author who wrote a book... with said book being pirated before it even was released, only to be downloaded a couple million times. How would that make you feel?

Assuming that by piracy you mean "shared for free" and not taking over of oil tankers off the coast of Somalia, I'd be laughing all the way to the bank because...

a) a book downloaded million times even before it's out would also be sold in millions of copies because it is clearly a most wanted book;
b) all those prizes for literature I'd rake in - again, cause it is such a fantastic book;
c) future contracts for my other books based on being "one of the most sought after and most read authors of our time";
d) FUCK YOU SHAKESPEARE!
e) movie rights;
f) merch;
g) "More people read this book than the Bible - find out why" sells;

Also, every single book by Stephen King is out there in a scanned and OCR-ed form, yet people still keep buying his books, old and new, while publishers keep paying him millions of dollars on a promise of writing a new book.
And last I checked Metallica still keeps on making and selling albums despite Napster forcing them to sell both their kidneys, lungs, livers, testicles and feet to pay for piratizing costs they had to face.

It's free publicity.
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/... [slashdot.org]

Re: Yes! Copyright terrorism must be stopped! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592749)

ffs it's not funny any more to point out the definition of 'piracy' and 'copyright infringement' - we get it, funny stuff, move on. Readers here know the definition and what is meant when people use the term 'piracy'.

Yes, it's probably great advertising for other official and legal channels to buy or license material, but it's not anyone's right to freely share the pirated/infringed material that they don't want to pay for. Don't even think about saying 'information wants to be free' or other similar rubbish as I believe that's just code for you don't want to pay anyone for anything ever.

You obviously don't work on anything creative or else you might think differently. Just because you don't want to pay for content does not mean you have the right to obtain it for free because the creator is not missing out on selling it to you.

This is unrelated to how corporates are using taxpayer money and powerful government departments to track and prosecute infringers. That sounds pretty wrong.

Re: Yes! Copyright terrorism must be stopped! (3, Insightful)

jeIIomizer (3670945) | about 2 months ago | (#47592981)

You obviously don't work on anything creative or else you might think differently.

You claim to speak for all people who work on anything "creative"? And what does what he works on have to do with the validity of his arguments? It's always funny to me to see people say that the people directly involved in the situation are more right than anyone else. Have you ever heard of something called "bias"? Of course people who stand to gain from a policy are going to support it in most cases! They're not any more incorrect, either, because people's arguments stand on their own merits.

Just because you don't want to pay for content does not mean you have the right to obtain it for free because the creator is not missing out on selling it to you.

I do have a right to free speech and my own private property. People voluntarily send me data (free speech) using their own private property (private property rights); the person or people who originally organized the data are almost never involved in this process, and at most, they simply do not gain; that is not the same as losing something.

Yet, some people think it's okay to have the 'right' to have government-enforced monopolies over ideas that infringe upon free speech and private property rights. I'd prefer to let the free market handle things; if you can't figure out a way to profit in the Age of Information, then you're going to fail, and that's really how it should be.

Re: Yes! Copyright terrorism must be stopped! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47593375)

ffs it's not funny anymore when people missue the term piracy because corporations knew they can get better buy in than using the actual term ....copyright infringement.

That you have allowed the corporate misrepresentation to stand as a common mis-use is your mistake not ours.

Re:Yes! Copyright terrorism must be stopped! (1)

nurb432 (527695) | about 2 months ago | (#47593327)

shhhh stop making sense. you know its not allowed around here.

Re:Yes! Copyright terrorism must be stopped! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592817)

"However, I do think we should cap it at one year jail; 3 times the costs of what's pirated; plus court costs, when it comes to piracy."

So basically.... you're saying they should have their lives destroyed. Don't fucking kid yourself, that's exactly what this would do to the average person.

Re:Yes! Copyright terrorism must be stopped! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592883)

Maybe I would learn that I should not make and mail out easily copied DVD's of yet to be released works.

Re:Yes! Copyright terrorism must be stopped! (2)

MMC Monster (602931) | about 2 months ago | (#47593659)

You seriously want to put this to jail time?

Two million people jailed a year for downloading Expendables 3? Who's going to man these jails? Who's going to pay for them.

Let's be fucking realistic please. Make it 10 times the retail cost of the copyright infringed item plus court costs and call it a day. But the person sueing has to prove that you're the one that infringed copyright. Not just a blind IP address.

Yes! Copyright terrorism must be stopped! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592743)

If you main evil scum that puts really bad cam copies on tpb, I'm all for it. But in this case that issue seems to have been adequately handled.

Re:Yes! Copyright terrorism must be stopped! (1)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | about 2 months ago | (#47592923)

You do know that you just invented that crap about a drone strike? And then used your fabrication to say "WE R IN POLIZZZ STAT! WHARRRRGARBL". What's scary is people like you really believe this.

Re:Yes! Copyright terrorism must be stopped! (1)

cascadingstylesheet (140919) | about 2 months ago | (#47593025)

And surely these evil scum will get what they deserve when they and all their loved ones are killed in a justifiable drone-strike!

Seriously, this is what a police-state looks like, there is no way to deny it anymore.

A police state run for more than half a decade by Barack Obama. Right?

For some reason, there's a taboo about connecting that dot.

Unknown Individuals? (1)

fellip_nectar (777092) | about 2 months ago | (#47592391)

In other words, they haven't found the source of the leak yet, but want everyone to think they have...

Re:Unknown Individuals? (1)

davester666 (731373) | about 2 months ago | (#47592425)

Oh, they have. Everybody that has uploaded even a single block of the movie is one of the sources. They are the ringleaders who must be taken down for the good of humanity.

DHS keeping us safe. (1)

thegarbz (1787294) | about 2 months ago | (#47592433)

This is the DHS keeping us safe at its finest. After they got this licked they just need to prevent the theatrical release, DVD, and Netflix copies, and then through the writers and directors of Expendables 3 in to Gitmo.

A good, and proper, use of our Federal tax dollars (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592481)

With our Military starved for funds, our schools in shambles, and our infrastructure crumbling, I can think of no better use for Federal tax dollars then to ensure that some corporation makes a profit.

Recall Congress.

Re:A good, and proper, use of our Federal tax doll (2)

tigersha (151319) | about 2 months ago | (#47592513)

Do you think spending Federal Dollars on law enforcement to make sure you keep the stuff in your home from criminal gangs is a good idea? Because they are preventing you from profiting from your work too.

Re:A good, and proper, use of our Federal tax doll (2)

jeIIomizer (3670945) | about 2 months ago | (#47592999)

Because they are preventing you from profiting from your work too.

Copyright infringement, at most, causes you to not gain something (other people's money, which they chose not to give you); it does not cause you to lose anything tangible.

If you honestly think that the government should waste money trying to stop people from voluntarily copying movies and such using their own private property, then I think you may be a bit mentally unstable. Copyright is anti-free market, anti-free speech, and anti-real private property.

Thanks Slashdot for seeding this! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592487)

Thanks Slashdot for seeding this!

I love a good mole hunt! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592497)

Offer a reward of the percentage based on the lost earnings!

Why DHS? (0)

jklovanc (1603149) | about 2 months ago | (#47592521)

All these comments about DHS should be doing other things than dealing with copyright laws are just stupid. By that logic no police officers should be catching burglars because there are murders who have not be caught yet. The police deal with this by having some officers assigned to a homicide squad and others assigned to a robbery squad. The DHS is a huge organization and they have many jobs to do. One of their departments is ICE which has a task of looking into copyright infringement. Just because their most important job is not complete (and never will be) does not mean they can or should neglect their others jobs.

Re:Why DHS? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592555)

By that logic no police officers should be catching burglars because there are murders who have not be caught yet.

There's not really an analogy that would show just how wrong it is for the government to try to enforce copyrights. I know I don't want my own government wasting money trying to prevent people from copying such data merely because it could mean that a corporation did not gain as much as it wanted to. So I just think that the government should not deal with such matters *at all*. The DHS is a scumbag organization, and so are many of the organizations that are under it (like the TSA).

But what's the point? You're a copyright troll.

Why DHS? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592611)

Why is there any department devoted to copyright issues in the DHS at all?

Nice (1)

nospam007 (722110) | about 2 months ago | (#47592595)

Steven Seagal, crime fighter, will destroy the houses of the offenders with a tank.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/er... [forbes.com]

Cool! I didn't know Expendables 3 was available. (4, Funny)

jolyonr (560227) | about 2 months ago | (#47592601)

Thank you slashdot!

Re:Cool! I didn't know Expendables 3 was available (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47593529)

If you don't know the characters from the first two movies it's not worth watching.

corporate welfare for the scum of the Earth (2)

dltaylor (7510) | about 2 months ago | (#47592623)

Wanna sue the gov't for something meaningful? Sue to get ALL of it (DHS, FBI, local cops, whatever) away from filling the welfare trough for the studio scum.

The Blu-Ray for "Under the Skin" has 11 MINUTES of uninterruptible BS before the menu (but, yes, she IS that hot). The torrent is a better product; "let the marketplace decide".

Jews... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592645)

... as usual. The 'Department of Homeland Security' - LOL. 'Homeland' indeed. Who makes this shit up? JEWS, that's who.

Why is the DHS involved? Because some Jew shysters might lose a few sheckels, that's why. You country is totally controlled by Jews, and worst of all, most of you think they are some kind of 'gods' and have to be protected and worshipped. Idiots.

http://balder.org/judea/Hate-Speech-Laws-Immigration-Jewish-Influence-Britain.php

http://balder.org/judea/Hate-Speech-Laws-Immigration-Jewish-Influence-USA.php

www.nazigassings.com

etc.etc. Do the research yourselves, don't believe me.

Awesome! (p1r4at3b4y dot se) (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592681)

Thank god they sued people over this, I may not have known otherwise!

People have to be paid (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592695)

How easy it is to ignore the fact the that the people who created this movie need to be paid. Not only the actors, writers, directors but the hairdressers, electricians and even the computer special effect workers. And God forbid that investors who fronted the money in the hope of a return on their investment should realize a profit. At least the Capitalists who wish to to profit from the labor of others paid for that privilege unlike simple thieves.

Merriam-Webster (1)

EzInKy (115248) | about 2 months ago | (#47593075)

"Full Definition of THEFT
1
a : the act of stealing; specifically : the felonious taking and removing of personal property with intent to deprive the rightful owner of it "

I'll bet that the vast majority of those who complain that their theives took their intellectual property will discover that in fact they still in actuality have it in their possession.

Torrent link (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592741)

Here's the actual torrent: The Expendables 3 2014 DVDSCR XviD-VAiN [thepiratebay.org] .

Really? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592805)

But Expendables 3 was pure caca! Forget straight to DVD, now it's straight to torrent and recycle-bin.

So (2)

vlad30 (44644) | about 2 months ago | (#47592819)

A movie not released yet only available to those who have a stake in it is released seems to me someone doesn't believe its worth it or doesn't like their boss BTW I believe a movie ticket DVD or blu-ray is over priced

Yes, it's too late now (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47592967)

A lot of people already found out this third movie is crap.

The greater insult (3, Interesting)

EmperorOfCanada (1332175) | about 2 months ago | (#47593083)

While this has probably lost them some money, I have always felt that one of the reasons that the movie industry hates torrents is that it gives people such a wide choice that crappy films don't end up being downloaded. How insulting must it be when your precious darling of a film is so undesired that people won't even take it for free.

Not to mention that movies that aren't being "professionally" distributed suddenly have some traction.

Don't forget to sue this site ... (1)

i_want_you_to_throw_ (559379) | about 2 months ago | (#47593413)

This site also makes torrents available. You can get the Expendables torrent here [google.com]
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