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Blackberry Moves Non-Handset Divisions Into New Business Unit

Unknown Lamer posted about 1 month ago | from the at-least-qnx-gets-to-live dept.

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First time accepted submitter BarbaraHudson (3785311) writes The CBC is reporting that Blackberry has made preparations to abandon the phone market by spinning pieces of the business off into Blackberry Technology Solutions. From the article: "The unit ... includes QNX, the company that BlackBerry acquired and used to develop the operating system that became the platform for its new smartphones, and Certicom, a former independent Toronto-area company with advanced security software. BTS will also include BlackBerry's Project Ion, which is an application platform focused on machine-to-machine Internet technology, Paratek antenna tuning technology and about 44,000 patents." When you have less market share than Windows Phone, it's time to throw in the towel ... or as they say in the new "lets not admit we screwed up" vernacular, "pivot to take advantage of new opportunities."

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Fuck you, other duck (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47699737)

BTS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47700801)

Is there a need for the "T" in BTS ?

Why not just call it Blackberry Solution and done with it ?

Re:BTS (1)

Barsteward (969998) | about 1 month ago | (#47701319)

because.... BS

no need for the "B" either (1)

swschrad (312009) | about 1 month ago | (#47703887)

just rename the company Canadian Reliability And Progress, and use the obvious ticker acronym in the markets.

New Vernacular? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47699747)

Psychobabble describing psychobabble?
Yo Dawg -- THAT'S SO FUCKING META!

RIP Research In Motion (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47699813)

Like Nortel before it!

RIM is dead, long live RIM's patents (1, Flamebait)

sixoh1 (996418) | about 1 month ago | (#47699843)

Let the race to purchase their Patent portfolio begin!

Who might have enough cash to purchase the biggest stick in the phone wars? Apple or Samsung. Like the highlander it seems there can be only one... then again the Highlander kept having sequels so we might see this fight again and again (yuck).

Re:RIM is dead, long live RIM's patents (1)

davester666 (731373) | about 1 month ago | (#47701461)

what stick?

RIM's been trying to peddle these patents for licensing money for ages. anybody who thinks they might be of use probably already has a license quite cheap, because RIM has been desperate for any cash for quite some time.

Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (4, Insightful)

hyades1 (1149581) | about 1 month ago | (#47699835)

I read TFA, and saw nothing about Blackberry supposedly trying to spin a screw-up as anything else. And I heard one of CBC's tech people discuss this move on CBC Radio 1 today. Again, there was nothing about Blackberry throwing in the towel, even on its handsets. In fact, the new one was reported to be garnering a fair bit of positive feedback. I have no idea whether that's true or not, but that is what was reported on CBC.

I'm not a Blackberry fanboi by any stretch of the imagination, in fact, my current and former phones are Samsung, but the summary offered above is dishonest...plain and simple.

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (1)

kamapuaa (555446) | about 1 month ago | (#47699919)

BlackBerry Ltd. has created a new business unit that will combine some of its most innovative technology and patent portfolio as the company focuses away from handheld devices[....]

Independent technology analyst Carmi Levy said the new unit reinforces the fact that Blackberry's days primarily as a handset vendor are behind it as it moves "very aggressively" toward a different business. "This is probably the most tangible evidence yet of the company's transition into something very different than it was even a year or two ago," Levy said.

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (4, Insightful)

hyades1 (1149581) | about 1 month ago | (#47700023)

The summary is inaccurate from the first sentence on. There's a difference between "shifting focus" and "abandoning the market", even in the euphemistic language of business PR types. And the transition Levy was talking about was to a focus on business applications and away from general public, except in certain markets.

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (0)

BarbaraHudson (3785311) | about 1 month ago | (#47700163)

The only "inaccuracies" in the past several years have been from BlackBerry. They've been trying - and failing - to push their phone platform. The first indication that they were making the shift was when they started offering BBM for non-BlackBerry phones. Now, focusing on their Intellectual Property - we all still remember when SCO started making the same noises.

After decimating their workforce, they're now hiring - but for non-hardware related services. For a company that renamed itself from RIM (Research In Motion) to BlackBerry in a failed effort to show "commitment" to their new line of cell phones, and a record loss of $6 billion, of which $934 million was for unsold Z10 phones, and their inability to sell themselves to a private investor when that investor couldn't get equity partners to pony up cash ... there's simply no way that they can continue to devote more than "maintenance mode" funding to the cell phone business - and if they try to do both, not only will the markets hammer them, but they'll just burn through their remaining cash reserves that much faster, AND scare off any potential investors/partners.

Blackberry's phone div is now a distraction as they try to reinvent themselves. They don't dare say it publicly, but there are no reasons to believe they're stupid enough to continue when their smartphone market share is a rounding error. They'll sell the bones to a 3rd-party manufacturer, now that they've shielded the core IP in another division.

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47700749)

Blah blah blah. Haters gotta hate.

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47700823)

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (1)

hyades1 (1149581) | about 1 month ago | (#47701047)

Thank you, my friend. As I noted in my original post, I'm no Blackberry fanboi. But I suspect a lot of the hatred coming from trolls on just about every tech site you can find has more to do with interested parties trying to drive down the company's value than from honest criticism.

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47702407)

You hit it right on the head with multiple account using article submitter. Her profile states she uses Android giving away her motives which you hit on perfectly. She's just trying to further her own personal agenda like the TomHudson=BarbaraHudson=Barbara, not Barbie multiple account using troll she's always been on this site and others (to mod herself up with and her opponents down with farming karma points here to do so via multiple registered account usage), stalking, harassing, libeling, and even impersonating others on this very site to do so as well http://news.slashdot.org/comme... [slashdot.org] so this is just to inform you how that scumbag really operates using her own quoted words to do so.

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (1)

BarbaraHudson (3785311) | about 1 month ago | (#47703155)

It's not a question of hating. The first link shows that shipments rose for the first time, to 1.5 million units a quarter.

Some perspective [thenextweb.com]

Android and iOS accounted for 96.4 percent of all smartphone shipments in Q2 2014, leaving even less for the competition as the Google-Apple duopoly hit a new high. Android grew its share to 84.7 market share, while iOS fell to 11.7 percent, Windows Phone slipped to 2.5 percent, and BlackBerry tanked to 0.5 percent.

Even Windows Phone is selling 5x as many phones as Blackberry, and people are questioning the long-term viability of WinPhone.

And "Blackberry Shares Lead TSX". Come off it - if you read the article, it had nothing to do with phones:

The tech sector led advancers with BlackBerry Ltd. ahead 14 cents to $10.61 (Canadian) as the company said that it has created a new business unit that will combine some of its most innovative technology, including QNX embedded software, Certicom cryptography applications and its patent portfolio.

The story on blackberry buying the German security firm is more of the same - moving away from phone manufacturing and into software and services. And it's market cap? 5.6 billion, a far cry from the peak of 83 billion.

If blackberry believed phones were its future, it wouldn't be making the moves it is. If investors believed blackberry's phones had any sort of future, they wouldn't be rewarding the company with a higher stock evaluation for moving away from phones as a core business. The sales numbers have spoken. That can't be faked or argued. We're into a smartphone duopoly - android and iOS - and android is winning.

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47703213)

Your profile shows you use android. Other posts here show you are a sockpuppeteer. Quote all the stats you like but you are a known quantity (scum online) and you only did that to yourself shown here http://news.slashdot.org/comme... [slashdot.org] barbarahudson=tomhudson=barbara, not barbie alteregos for karma farming, self promotion, and trolling/harassing/libeling/stalking stupidity. This is only truth, nothing more. Truth and evidences you provided for us no less. Truth you are destroying yourself with as per your usual online for years now due to your own personal stupidity and transparently obvious online scumbaggery.

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (1)

Barsteward (969998) | about 1 month ago | (#47701333)

you should read the article you posted again (and again) until you understand it fully. you appear to be a shill against blackberry

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (1)

BarbaraHudson (3785311) | about 1 month ago | (#47702489)

I'm far from a "shill against blackberry." As a Canadian, I wanted them to continue their success. However, the writing was on the wall the day they caved in to Saudi Arabia [huffingtonpost.com] and allowed government access to (and decryption of) user's secure messages.

You can't screw over your customers and not expect people to start looking at alternatives.

I considered a blackberry earlier this year, but it was so off the mainstream that I said to heck with it. If Blackberry had gone to android instead of qnx, I would probably have bought one just to encourage them, but there's no way that I'm going to buy something that's virtually an orphan. And everyone I know who loved their crackberries has switched. Judging by their market share, this is now an all-too-common occurrence.

You're multiple sockpuppet account using scum (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47702525)

Who trolls, stalks, libels, and impersonates others online http://news.slashdot.org/comme... [slashdot.org] or aren't your means and methods quoted there scumbag in your own words no less right there in black and white? Admitting in your own profile you are "playing with Android" only shows your motives for putting down a competitor as well. You're fooling no one scumbag, except yourself.

Re:You're multiple sockpuppet account using scum (1)

BarbaraHudson (3785311) | about 1 month ago | (#47702853)

Poor APK. Still doing everything he can (which ain't much).

Sure I'm playing with android. Given the choice of developing for blackberry or android, why would I play with a phone that's got almost zero market share?

What killed Blackberry: Terrible apps [cnn.com] .

Many of the most popular apps on the iPhone and Android are nowhere to be found. There's no Instagram, Netflix (NFLX), Candy Crush or Google (GOOG) Maps. Many of the big-brand apps that do exist for BlackBerry, including Facebook, Twitter and WhatsApp, are infrequently updated and have received dismal reviews from users.

Meanwhile, BlackBerry news site BerryReview revealed last month that a single developer is responsible for 48,000, or 40%, of BlackBerry's apps. Some of those apps developed by Hong Kong outfit S4BB many seem legit and functional. But many of them are either generic clones of other apps or possess minimal usefulness.

... and ...

BlackBerry is also rapidly losing subscribers, so big app makers don't want to devote resources to a vanishing platform. But BlackBerry also gives free rein to small developers to fill its app store with spam apps.

Although the open-ended strategy may be mildly beneficial to BlackBerry and a few ambitious developers in the short term, encouraging such a large ratio of garbage apps to quality apps poses consequences in the long run: Smaller developers don't want to invest in BlackBerry, because it it's hard for consumers to stumble upon their apps in a diluted pool.

BlackBerry isn't a "competitor" to anybody any more. They sold fewer phones last year than in 2008 [theguardian.com] . And worse ...

analysts remained sceptical about the future of the firm formerly known as Research in Motion. "If you wouldn't lend money to buy BlackBerry, why would you lend money to BlackBerry?" queried Benedict Evans, of Enders Analysis.

... and ...

One major supplier, Jabil, warned in September that it might stop building parts for the company, which could completely kill off the handset business.

When such a critical supplier says they're thinking of bailing, there's no way to spin it.

How many sockpuppet alterego accounts (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47703005)

Do you keep here for modding yourself up and opponents down unjustly with? We've seen 3 already. Appears that's true of you, and that you use Android and are attempting to put down a competitor as well. Judging by the feedback you're getting, you're failing miserably as usual sockpuppeteer. Never fear though. We know you mod yourself up and your opponents down unjustifiably since You're known for using multiple sockpuppets, ac trolling/harassing/libeling and stalking others in posts which you're quoted in from your own words no less showing your reprehensible methods scumbag http://news.slashdot.org/comme... [slashdot.org] so that exposure of yourself is simply letting you destroy yourself as always tomhudson=barbarahudson=barbara, not barbie (your multiple karma farming accounts you use on this very site to do your disgusting self preserving mod yourself up and others down unjustly crap). Do you think you're fooling anyone but yourself? Look at the feedback you're getting all through this article's replies. You have failed, as always, since you're a reprehensible dishonest pig.

Re:How many sockpuppet alterego accounts (1)

BarbaraHudson (3785311) | about 1 month ago | (#47703255)

The editors can check the accounts you named - they haven't been active for several years. Go on, ask them to, APK.

Oh wait, you can't. You've been perma-banned and have to troll anonymously via proxies. And "those other users who tore me apart?" Everyone knows it's you, again posting anonymously, because I tore apart your stupid hosts file crapola. BTW - why would anyone dare to use a hosts file that is produced by you? After all, you post anonymously, and one way to monetize your hosts file is to put a few bogus entries in that go to bogus "monetizing" sites. Who has independently vetted it? Nobody.

Re:How many sockpuppet alterego accounts (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47703317)

Barb you never left. You're shown projecting you stalk, libel, and harass apk http://news.slashdot.org/comme... [slashdot.org] by anonymous posts in the same post you replied to along with telling others to do so with you demonstrating a concerted effort of libel, stalking etc. so your bullshit is being exposed and so are you. You did this to yourself.

Barbara/TomHudson etc.: step inside... apk (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47703503)

I do NOT troll by anonymous proxies. I don't even have an account here (correction: I had 1 on my very first post to talk to Mr. John Carmack I never used again though in 2005 iirc, & that was it).

So how can I be "perma-banned" as you also falsely stated now?

(That's more of your "usual" crap, like when you libeled me here http://slashdot.org/comments.p... [slashdot.org] falsely attempting to adversely affect my programming career - as well considering you haven't ever and will never have done even a fraction of what I have in the art & science of computing also)

You also demonstrate you have stalked me by ac posts even trying to get others to do so (in a concerted effort against myself) http://slashdot.org/comments.p... [slashdot.org]

You fail and destroy yourself, like you have always done, only doing this to yourself as always.

APK

P.S.=>

"I tore apart your stupid hosts file crapola." - by BarbaraHudson (3785311) on Tuesday August 19, 2014 @10:46AM (#47703255) Homepage

Oh, really? Then why'd you run from disproving my points on them giving users added speed, security, reliability & more here this week too then -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... [slashdot.org]

Hmmm? You can't help but fail to fail, especially vs. myself, now can you? Nope... lol!

... apk

Additionally: Who's "vetted" it? Ok... apk (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47703937)

Letting your libelous mouth destroy you again, here goes:

"After all, you post anonymously, and one way to monetize your hosts file is to put a few bogus entries in that go to bogus "monetizing" sites. Who has independently vetted it? - by BarbaraHudson (3785311) on Tuesday August 19, 2014 @10:46AM (#47703255) Homepage

1st of all: Who said I was attempting to "monetize it"? I give it away so folks have more speed, security, reliability & more for FREE... it's the right thing to do. I have the ability to do so & it's better than ANY single competitor by far, doing more with less.

Secondly: Who has "vetted it" per my subject-line?

The BEST in the security antimalware & antispyware business currently, http://www.av-test.org/en/news... [av-test.org] who also host my program for hosts, per this test is who -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... [hosts-file.net] , stupid!

They even recommend it as "best of breed"!

APK

P.S.=> Again: Face this challenge you've run from this week after you 'started up' with me yet again too, which you're running from since your big mouth has once again written checks it can't cash:

"I tore apart your stupid hosts file crapola." - by BarbaraHudson (3785311) on Tuesday August 19, 2014 @10:46AM (#47703255) Homepage

Oh, really? Then why'd you run from disproving my points on them giving users added speed, security, reliability & more here this week too where YOU started up your usual b.s. with me, then -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... [slashdot.org]

Hmmm?

(However - Seeing your libel, stalking and harassing me by ac posts and multiple sockpuppet accounts of yours exposed all thru this article's replies too = PRICELESS also & about time since you had it coming to you for YEARS now, only doing it to yourself)

You can't DO IT - heck: Aryeh Holzer of NOD32/ESET won't even *try* it http://it.slashdot.org/comment... [slashdot.org] ... & you said you've disproven me?

... apk

Re:You're multiple sockpuppet account using scum (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47703127)

Barb considering you admit trolling apk here http://slashdot.org/comments.p... [slashdot.org] and the fact you libeled him as well trying to adversely affect his professional programming career too here http://slashdot.org/comments.p... [slashdot.org] libeling apk as you did stating falsehoods about him also doesn't look too good for you projecting your stupidity outright noting apk in the post I just replied to. You really aren't too intelligent, are you? Obviously not as the answer in regards to the rhetorical question I just asked you. You telling others to anonymously stalk and troll him too here http://slashdot.org/comments.p... [slashdot.org] ? Please. Give up already. You're destroying yourself by projecting your own rotten means and methods quoted and shown here.

Re:You're multiple sockpuppet account using scum (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47703225)

You're an ass with an axe to grind and a troll too. First of all, your citations are all OUTDATED (BOTH of your links are almost a YEAR old, for a RELEVANT analysis, go look at the MANY links that I posted to your earlier BS rant and that are ALL CURRENT news articles!) . As for the app situation, the forthcoming BB10.3 release will raise BB10's Android compatibility to v4.3, meaning that the Blackberries can run virtually all apps currently available for Android, as well as Blackberry-specific apps (currently they can run up to Android v4.2). Furthermore, BB10 is VASTLY more secure, faster, smaller (memory footprint) and requires substantially less CPU than Android which also means it makes more efficient use of the battery! Somehow all of THOSE things continue to elude you!

It's also ironic that you complained about WhatsApp sucking on BB, given that BBM is, by any measure of features / performance, currently the BEST cross-platform instant messaging application on the planet... Still, contrary to your bullshit, both Netflix and Instagram are available and they're the EXACT same apps that YOU get (because even though they're "Android" apps, they work perfectly well on BB10! :D) The funny part is, I don't care if you're a developer and you only want to write Android apps, because if I want them, or need them, I will just install and USE them on my Blackberry just fine thanks!

Another point, with regard to the "Saudi Arabia" thing, I don't even know WTF the point is that you're trying to make? I mean, no other manufacturer was even approached about such things because their platforms were so insecure FROM THE OUTSET that the governments didn't care about them! So, what you're kind of acknowledging, in one sense, is that the Blackberry Platform is so secure that tyrannical governments had to resort to exerting legislative pressure to bring Blackberries (in THOSE countries) down to the same insecure playing field that EVERY OTHER platform was already playing on... How EXACTLY is that a knock on Blackberry again?

You're a troll with an anti-Blackberry Agenda and/or an axe to grind. You obviously are using sock-puppets and that as much as anything else is a CLEAR sign of poor moral character and low class. Even here your trolling efforts required using dated information and slanted/misleading statements that aren't reflective of reality. You really should just stop, maybe take a class or two on how to live life like regular folk and not have to be an asshole all of the time?

-AC

Re:You're multiple sockpuppet account using scum (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47703277)

Agreed 110% and this has that scumbag exposed and on the run bigtime http://news.slashdot.org/comme... [slashdot.org] in all that you stated with proofs of her own sockpuppeteering karma farming mod herself up and opponents down with reprehensible stalking/trolling, libeling rotten means with her own words quoted or shown to prove it. She's trash. Purest trash that is so transparent it's not funny and stupid as a box of rocks to top it off with what you've shown her attempting.

How many sockpuppet alterego accounts (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47706131)

Do you keep here for modding yourself up and opponents down unjustly with? We've seen 3 already. Appears that's true of you, and that you use Android and are attempting to put down a competitor as well. Judging by the feedback you're getting, you're failing miserably as usual sockpuppeteer. Never fear though. We know you mod yourself up and your opponents down unjustifiably since You're known for using multiple sockpuppets, ac trolling/harassing/libeling and stalking others in posts which you're quoted in from your own words no less showing your reprehensible methods scumbag http://news.slashdot.org/comme... [slashdot.org] so that exposure of yourself is simply letting you destroy yourself as always tomhudson=barbarahudson=barbara, not barbie (your multiple karma farming accounts you use on this very site to do your disgusting self preserving mod yourself up and others down unjustly crap). Do you think you're fooling anyone but yourself? Look at the feedback you're getting all through this article's replies. You have failed, as always, since you're a reprehensible dishonest pig. Lastly, did you *think* unjustifiably downmodding the last time I posted this here http://news.slashdot.org/comme... [slashdot.org] to expose you could be hidden? Guess again, since here it is yet again.

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (1)

hyades1 (1149581) | about 1 month ago | (#47701335)

Please stay with the subject. Due to some unusual circumstances, I personally heard and read everything CBC reported on Blackberry yesterday. Your summary of what THEY said was not just inaccurate, it was deceitfully inaccurate.

You can thrash around all you want. The fact remains: you attempted to mislead members of this community. I have no idea why, and I couldn't care less. You are dishonest. Any further submissions by you should receive close scrutiny by Slashdot's editors.

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (1)

BarbaraHudson (3785311) | about 1 month ago | (#47702729)

The CBC story is just a part of the whole story. But if you read the story on the CBC web site (which I linked to) , it includes the following:

Independent technology analyst Carmi Levy said the new unit reinforces the fact that Blackberry's days primarily as a handset vendor are behind it as it moves "very aggressively" toward a different business.

"This is probably the most tangible evidence yet of the company's transition into something very different than it was even a year or two ago," Levy said.

"It suggests they are no longer as dependent on handset-based revenue as they once were and as a result they have both the financial foundation as well as the corporate organizational confidence to more concretely move away from those lines of businesses into areas that are largely based on its intellectual property."

He said the move was positive for Blackberry, noting that it has struggled with its product launches and faced stiff competition from other smartphone makers while it has received little credit for its range of capabilities, especially when it came to software.

We've seen this story before - a company decides to concentrate on software and services, and sells off their hardware lines. IBM and Lenovo with PCs, and now with servers, should ring a bell.

Blackberry moving all their IP into a separate business unit is the logical way to get ready to sell off their phone division for the maximum return. People have known for years that Blackberry was in trouble. Just look at their market share (but you might need a microscope - it's worse than WinPhone). Everyone I know who had a crackberry has switched away. It's why blackberry took $965 million in writedowns on their unsold inventory of Z10 phones. They can't even sell them at cost.

Or you might want to read what the Globe and Mail had to say almost a year ago in "Inside the fall of BlackBerry: How the smartphone inventor failed to adapt." Here's just a part of it: [theglobeandmail.com]

But smartphone users were rapidly shifting their focus to software applications, rather than choosing devices based solely on hardware. RIM found it difficult to make the transition, said Neeraj Monga, director of research with Veritas Investment Research Corp. The company’s engineering culture had served it well when it delivered efficient, low-power devices to enterprise customers. But features that suited corporate chief information officers weren’t what appealed to the general public.

“The problem wasn’t that we stopped listening to customers,” said one former RIM insider. “We believed we knew better what customers needed long term than they did. Consumers would say, ‘I want a faster browser.’ We might say, ‘You might think you want a faster browser, but you don’t want to pay overage on your bill.’ ‘Well, I want a super big very responsive touchscreen.’ ‘Well, you might think you want that, but you don’t want your phone to die at 2 p.m.’ “We would say, ‘We know better, and they’ll eventually figure it out.’ ”

Trying to satisfy its two sets of customers – consumers and corporate users – could leave the company satisfying neither. When RIM executives showed off plans to add camera, game and music applications to its products to several hundred Fortune 500 chief information officers at a company event in Orlando in 2010, they weren’t prepared for the backlash that followed. Large corporate customers didn’t want personal applications on corporate phones, said a former RIM executive who attended the session.

Meanwhile, it turned out consumers didn’t care so much about battery life or security features. They wanted apps. Apple’s iOs and Google’s Android systems were relatively easy for outside software developers to use, compared to BlackBerry’s technically complicated Java-based system.

Blackberry’s apps looked “uglier” than those programmed in more modern languages, and the simulator used to test the apps often didn’t recreate the actual experience, said Trevor Nimegeers, a Calgary-based entrepreneur whose software company, Wmode, has developed apps for BlackBerry. Further, RIM exerted tight control over developers before it would sign off on their apps for use on BlackBerrys, stifling creativity. “Developers wanted to be embraced, not controlled,” Mr. Nimegeers said. As a result, hot apps such as Instagram and Tumblr bypassed BlackBerry.

You have to look at the CBC article in light of all the writing that's been on the wall for several years. Blackberry the phone manufacturer is now a continual bleed on resources, and needs to somehow be sold off / dumped / whatever or the company will fail. Remember, this is a company that was once worth $83 billion, but now can't sell itself to private investors for less than $5 billion. If they don't get out of the hardware market, they'll do a Nortel.

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47703279)

Since you're so bent on using OUTDATED, news, and misrepresenting facts, here are some CURRENT [slashdot.org] news articles about Blackberry that run contrary to your narrative / agenda....

-AC

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47703379)

barbarahudson further exposed in detail as to her online stalking/trolling, libeling and more http://news.slashdot.org/comme... [slashdot.org] in her own words shown doing what she does best which is to destroy herself.

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (1)

Cealestis (2994039) | about 1 month ago | (#47704225)

You're just drawing conclusions and without precedent. The article is slanted, your summary is just misleading. We all know they made mistakes, media has that one down. Now their downsizing (not news). and this article shows they're diversifying (not surprising). Why bother post this at all? If they sell off their handset line, that would be news. This is just good business.

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (1)

BarbaraHudson (3785311) | about 1 month ago | (#47704699)

You're just drawing conclusions and without precedent.

That sentence doesn't parse. If you meant "without justification", there's plenty of justification - and actually no other conclusion is possible given the facts. Their handset operation's bleeding them dry, and both they and investors know it. The $965 million loss on the writedown of the Z10 inventory shows just how "out of touch" Blackberry is with what the market wants in a smartphone. The creation of a new business unit that houses all the IP but does not have a thing to do with manufacturing smartphones, and their newfound zeal for this as the way to survive and prosper, should tell anyone thinking of buying a blackberry that they will not be able to afford devoting resources into making new phones in the future.

This is a company who sold fewer phones last year than in 2008. The market has exploded since 2008, and it doesn't want what Blackberry is offering. Their global market share is half of one percent, and expected to drop even further in the future. Obvious inference - they'll sell off the phone division now that the IP is protected elsewhere in the business. There's no business case to keep a legacy business that's bleeding cash when you can flip it.

The only risk is that they'll do like GM tried to do with the Hummer brand - ask a ridiculous amount of money, and end up getting nothing for it. More likely scenario is selling it, but keeping some equity in the new venture, to keep the cash price down. Now, if you can make a business case that argues contrary to this, and sees them continuing to be a phone manufacturer past 2018, go ahead.

BarbaraHudson we only want to know 1 thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47705321)

Why are you running from backing up your bullshit here http://news.slashdot.org/comme... [slashdot.org] where apk showed malwarebytes themselves vetting his app independently (despite your further attempts at ruining his professional reputation as you've been shown doing all through this article's replies and only ruining yourself again) and here also where you say you disproved his points on hosts and yet a link is in there from this week showing you ran from that fair challenge of his too here http://news.slashdot.org/comme... [slashdot.org]

?

Go for it. Especially since you shot your big mouth off again with it writing checks your limited brain can't cash!

You said you disproved his points on hosts. Disprove those too in those links now also. Funny how you ran from it, eh? Not.

You're online scum. Plain and simple, as was said and proven about you all thru this thread such as here http://news.slashdot.org/comme... [slashdot.org] where your libel, trolling/stalking by ac and inciting others to join you in it are also shown with you saying all of it or shown doing it (even attempting to create a concerted effort of stalking and libel).

You are pitiful multiple account sockpuppet self upmodding trash and pure scum online.

You only did this to yourself.

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (1)

hyades1 (1149581) | about a month ago | (#47713177)

Quit trying to change the subject. You attempted to use the CBC, which has a decent reputation for reporting tech intelligently and without bias, to lend spurious legitimacy to your own deceitful, misleading summary.

And quit repeating Levi's comment as though your original summary didn't misrepresent what he said.

I don't know what your issue is with Blackberry, and I couldn't care less. What I DO care about is that you're a liar who attempted to deceive Slashdot readers. I hope the people running the site ensure that any future posts by you are carefully audited for deceitful and misleading content.

Now quit wasting my time.

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47700253)

I know a Canadian probably hates to give up on the largest national company that isn't in the business of selling off national resources to the US, or a bank that primarily profits from these companies...but come on.

Blackberry is deader than disco and everybody knows it.

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (1)

unimacs (597299) | about 1 month ago | (#47700531)

I think the market has pretty much abandoned them. They started the year with a market share of a few percentage points in the US, now it's less than .5 percent.

It's hard to survive as a platform if the market isn't big enough to justify 3rd party development. Yes I know it can run Android apps, - sort of. The reality simply may be that they can not get enough traction and sell enough units to justify the R&D it takes to turn out decent hardware and software. Lots of good PC operating systems died when Microsoft was dominating the PC market, - not because they weren't good but because developers didn't want to waste their time on a minuscule market.

Call it shifting focus if you want, but the writing is on the wall and has been for awhile. Now we are beginning to see the signs that BlackBerry knows it too.

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47700653)

Is the 0.5% US or global? Either way it's very low however they may still have their single digit status in the US.

I'm not sure what writing is on the wall. It's clear that they missed the shift in market 7 or so years ago, and continued to do so for three or four more years. However, I'm assuming the restructuring was with serious intent to rebuild a viable business (not dominant because that ship has largely sailed). If I'm not mistaken recent announcements suggests that they have restructured, have a good deal of capital, and IP. Is that more than a blank slate?

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (2)

theshowmecanuck (703852) | about 1 month ago | (#47701217)

Missed the market shift? No, they pulled a Novell. They got too big for their britches and assumed because they were number one, they could dictate how things should be. They stopped innovating and became relatively stagnant. Meanwhile others went around them and delivered stuff that the market wanted and before they knew it, they weren't number one any more. I call anything like this Novell Syndrome.

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (1)

davester666 (731373) | about 1 month ago | (#47701475)

they also were way behind on basic research into components. When the iPhone was first announced, RIM's engineers actually thought Apple was lying about the specs, that Apple couldn't get a touch screen at that resolution, with that much RAM and storage and CPU and GPU and radios, in that physical size, with a battery that would last as long as Apple claimed.

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (1, Insightful)

dunkelfalke (91624) | about 1 month ago | (#47701949)

Sorry, but this is difficult to believe. iPhone specs weren't anything special. In fact, high end WM phones had better hardware.

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (1)

davester666 (731373) | about 1 month ago | (#47705141)

back then it wasn't. other phones at the time might have had better specs on specific items, nobody was making a similar item, particularly with those physical dimensions.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/10/12/27/rim_thought_apple_was_lying_about_original_iphone_in_2007.html [appleinsider.com]

or google for other articles.

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (0)

dunkelfalke (91624) | about 1 month ago | (#47705459)

Look, I had a HTC Universal which was released two bloody years before the iPhone. It was, of course, thicker, due to it having a pivot screen and a physical full QWERTY keyboard. Just without these the size would be the same. But that HTC phone had a somewhat larger display (and with higher resolution at that) and an interchangeable battery and a SD card slot.

iPhone was a downgrade to what was possible at the time.

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (1)

davester666 (731373) | about a month ago | (#47708827)

Yes, that's exactly why nobody buys iPhones [all models]. The technical specs are inferior to competing devices.

Anyway, your 2005 HTC Universal dimensions (from http://www.jawal123.com/-1108609633/en-us/htc-universal [jawal123.com] )
128mm × 81mm × 25 mm = 259 cubic centimeters

2007 iPhone dimensions (from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone [wikipedia.org] )
115x61x11.6mm = 81.3 cubic centimeters

less than 1/3 the volume of your HTC Universal

that's why RIM's engineers couldn't believe. Stuffing that much stuff in that small a package, nevermind the software.

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47706825)

You only emphasize the real point. The market didn't want specs, they want a phone that was an awesome experience with the web and apps. iOS and Android got the experience right and won. Once the other platforms caught up, there was too much of a first mover advantage in the App Store for people to catch up.

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (1)

unimacs (597299) | about 1 month ago | (#47702951)

In my opinion, in order for Blackberry to succeed in the phone market as a unique platform (not another android device), they have to have hardware and software that is head and shoulders above Android and iOS. Their phones would have to have features that neither of the others have, nor are they likely to get in the near future, - something big enough to excite customers that would take competitors a couple of years to catch up to.

It would have to be long enough for developers to decide they can't wait for Apple and Google to catch up and would have to write apps for Blackberry.

I just don't see that happening. They may come up with a nice feature or two that the competition doesn't have yet, but it's unlikely to be enticing enough to lure many people away from all the apps available on iPhones and Androids. How long can Blackberry continue to sink large sums of money into R & D that doesn't result in enough sales to sustain it?

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47703437)

Blackberries running BB10 can run virtually all Android apps in existence today (the major exception being apps that require Android v4.3-specific features, but that support is coming to BB10 this fall). Like so much of the "perception" that surrounds Blackberry today, the argument that people keep making about the app situation JUST DOESN'T REFLECT REALITY.

BB10 runs Android Apps! -- on top of that it's faster, smaller, and more secure than Android. If the zeitgeist could let-go of the perception of Blackberry phones from the pre-BB10 era, and look at the new phones with an unbiased eye, they'd find devices that are every bit as good as (if not better-than!) any other phone available. Heck, the Z30 just won a global "Best in Class" award last month...

There's a lot of great things about the Blackberry phones, but for the most part, people just don't appear willing (or able?) to shirk their ignorant misperceptions of the past and view them today with an unjaundiced eye...

-AC

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47703713)

Very true. All apps would run, if Google allowed it.

The problem is Google refuses to allow Google Play appstore to run on BB10 devices. The public excuse is "fails certification tests", but the tests that fail are crafted in such a way to ensure that only devices running Android natively, not in a VM can pass. It's all software, nothing is impossible given enough thought and intelligence.

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (1)

Claymore (3514211) | about a month ago | (#47709903)

The BB10 app Snap is a Google Play Store app for Blackberry, and it works just fine. Of course, there are other app stores too - Amazon (which will ship with OS 10.3), 1Mobile, Goodereader, et al.

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (1)

sixoh1 (996418) | about 1 month ago | (#47699939)

Ehh, a bit adhomenim for my tastes. TFA makes a bit point about how important "IP" is to the new outfit. In the CEO's own words "...people don't give us credit..." which is code for - we're not making enough money from selling hardware, and lookie here at all these wonderful patents we can use to generate licenses fees or sell as an asset.

Get to know the dirtbag BarbaraHudson is (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47702439)

Letting her multiple troll account self do the talking via quote http://news.slashdot.org/comme... [slashdot.org] via her usual reprehensible methods of stalking, trolling, harassing, libeling, and even impersonating others on slashdot in order to do so, and she's up to her usual furthering her own personal agenda since her 3rd userprofile here (other known 2 are tomhudson=barbarahudson=barbara, not barbie of doubtless many more) even says she uses android.

Re:Looks like some editorializing by the submitter (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47714173)

"In fact, the new one was reported to be garnering a fair bit of positive feedback."

I have a "newer" one, the Q5 (http://global.blackberry.com/smartphones/blackberry-q5.html), and I love it. I switched to Android and iOS for a short while and when I found that I could go back to the new BB10 OS I took a chance and I'm very happy. It's a productive and functional device. Not much on playing games or controlling my thermostat, but all I really need is to make calls, send/receive texts, check the weather, surf a website for info (the browser is slick), and occasionally respond to emails. It works perfectly for that, and the physical keyboard makes it easier for longer email responses. Great battery life!

If Blackberry is so uncool these days, then I'm more than happy being uncool until it truly dies off. I do get my share of "You're using a new Blackberry?"... "Let me see that thing."..."Wow, that's better than I expected." It's extremely stable, and has a very speedy and responsive interface. The touch screen is small due to having the keyboard, but I don't need a phablet.

Moving valuable assets into one division will help (0)

JoeyRox (2711699) | about 1 month ago | (#47700119)

The liquidator in 18 months when it comes time sell the remaining furniture and copy machines.

Re:Moving valuable assets into one division will h (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47700157)

How many times have you made a similar comment/joke over the years? Saying that eventually that outcome is guaranteed is meaningless because the generic crack lacks any valid or insightful argument. It amounts do some doofus laughing at his own words.

Re:Moving valuable assets into one division will h (4, Insightful)

narcc (412956) | about 1 month ago | (#47700235)

Blackberry: Gone in a year since 2010

Their demise, I presume, will coincide with the year of the Linux desktop and strong AI.

Re:Moving valuable assets into one division will h (1)

JoeyRox (2711699) | about 1 month ago | (#47700763)

I suppose it depends on how one defines "gone". If living in hospice is considered living then I guess they're surviving.

Re:Moving valuable assets into one division will h (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47700797)

Do they not have 2 or 3 billion in the bank and now effectively in the black?

Re:Moving valuable assets into one division will h (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47700857)

They also have global .5% marketshare and laid off 40% of its workforce. They sound like real winners!

Re:Moving valuable assets into one division will h (2)

Claymore (3514211) | about 1 month ago | (#47701179)

I think .5 is the US market share, not global. In many countries, they have significant market share. In South Africa, for example, they're just behind Samsung, with 5-10 times Apple's market share. It's similar in places like Indonesia. Also, market share is not the whole story. They have devices and software in some very influential areas - most of the G20 governments, and most leading companies in certain markets.

Re:Moving valuable assets into one division will h (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47702275)

I think .5 is the US market share, not global

You think wrong.

http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2... [thenextweb.com]

Re:Moving valuable assets into one division will h (1)

Barsteward (969998) | about 1 month ago | (#47701353)

so fucking what? having percentage points of a market is just a pissing contest. Apple had a low percentage of the desktop market for years and they didn't really care about it because they were making more than enough money and had a good bank balance.

Re:Moving valuable assets into one division will h (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47703717)

Dead? Technically not. But they've gone from near-monopoly to someone who's being outsold by Microsoft.

They clung to their old tech and the world shrugged, said "Fuck you and your fucking BES servers. We want our fucking smartphones" and simply walked around. They screamed "Iphones and androids are kids toys!"- The world laughed, and gave them the finger. They got their fart apps AND their corporate mail.

The day the iphone got activcsync support their biggest strength became their biggest liability. Their corporate culture was super arrogant and intensely toxic. Change was impossible.

They do have a useful product, but it's far from mainstream now. They may make enough money to stay afloat after a restructuring, serving a specific sector or business and government communication.. Or they may go belly-up and sell their assets to an IP troll. A fitting end for a company that was once commonly called "Lawsuits in Motion"

return the bonuses!! (1)

snemiro (1775092) | about 1 month ago | (#47700263)

Maybe now is time for the executives to return the bonuses and share them with the employees....it looks like they didn't do a great job after all.....

BarbaraHudson is an absolute idiot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47700343)

Time to throw in the towel when it's the first time in years the company is making a profit? Why the fuck would BlackBerry want to do that? Are you an idiot?

Re:BarbaraHudson is an absolute idiot (2)

PapayaSF (721268) | about 1 month ago | (#47700453)

Time to throw in the towel when it's the first time in years the company is making a profit? Why the fuck would BlackBerry want to do that?

Because it's the first time in years the company is making a profit? Won't that mean they'd get more for it?

Yes, people have been predicting doom for Blackberry for a while, but it's hard to see some big turnaround on the horizon, with millions of people abandoning Apple and Android.

(My, how times change. The first iPhone came out a little over seven years ago, to widespread mockery: "It has no keyboard!" "It's too expensive!" "Businesses and government will never abandon their Blackberries!" And now Blackberry is a shadow of it's former self, and we're arguing whether they're totally doomed or not....)

Re:BarbaraHudson is an absolute idiot (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47700705)

Might I suggest that it's a business, not a tv movie. At least for the short term, the only benchmark is profitability not market dominance with all the stars laughing at the end.

What makes a viable business? Must valuations be 300 or more billions?

In all of these Blackberry analyses, is the rest of the world (outside of the US) not enough to bank on a specific strategy? Could they leverage their other IPs to build a business. I don't know.

I'm generally surprised that the critques never delve into why the capital and the IP that Blackberry possesses could be worked into a profitable business. Is it lack of imagination? Moreover, it appears that they have actively worked to restructure and trim costs. Yes, that means cutting the workforce. Did they cut more than fat, maybe. If you're going to say that the company is going to tank then that implies a reasonably thorough analyses, of some form. So, let's hear it. [I have done zero analyses so for me it could go either way.]

Yes, it's a shadow of its former self but do they now have the conditions to rebuilt (in whatever way)? Pretend that you're not holding onto convenient conclusions - or susceptible to confirmation bias.

Genuinely curious about the superficial prognostications (and what those imply about the posters).

Re:BarbaraHudson is an absolute idiot (1)

necro81 (917438) | about 1 month ago | (#47702121)

My, how times change. The first iPhone came out a little over seven years ago, to widespread mockery: "It has no keyboard!" "It's too expensive!" "Businesses and government will never abandon their Blackberries!" And now Blackberry is a shadow of it's former self, and we're arguing whether they're totally doomed or not....

Well, this is slashdot - what else are we supposed to do? If we weren't griping, sniping, and tearing everything down, we might actually go out and create something freakin' amazing!

Yes BarbaraHudson is an absolute idiot (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47700569)

Plus a multiple sockpuppet account using fraudster on slashdot + known admitted troll http://news.slashdot.org/comme... [slashdot.org]

Re:Yes BarbaraHudson is an absolute idiot (2)

hyades1 (1149581) | about 1 month ago | (#47701083)

Thanks for that. I'm not used to seeing Slashdot submitters who are outright liars.

The thing is, I happened to be home today, so I heard everything CBC had to say about this story, and I read what they put up on their site, too. Sock Puppet BarbaraHudson's summary simply did not match what was reported. It did, however, bear a close enough resemblance to make it obvious the deception was not accidental.

BarbaraHudson = Sockpuppeteer/trolling stalker (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47702091)

Other accounts he/she keeps here are http://slashdot.org/~Barbara%2... [slashdot.org] + http://slashdot.org/~tomhudson... [slashdot.org] and her BarbaraHudson post history shows her even admitting she trolls others here where he/she started up trouble with another user and was immediately torn apart for it here this week http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... [slashdot.org] and she is shown telling others to stalk him anonymously under her tomhudson account:

The next time you see a post by him, just reply anonymously. And to really mess with his head, reply anonymously to your anonymous post, disagreeing with your first anon post (extra points if you claim in the second post that you're him - that REALLY sets him off). He'll accuse you of being me by tomhudson (43916) on Saturday April 16, @01:38PM (#35841122) Homepage Journal

From http://slashdot.org/comments.p... [slashdot.org]

TomHudson=Barbara, not Barbie=BarbaraHudson is a trolling scumbag of the highest order and the lowest of the low who as shown above is even willing to impersonate others in order to harass them.

Re:Yes BarbaraHudson is an absolute idiot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47701815)

Plus a multiple sockpuppet account using fraudster on slashdot + known admitted troll http://news.slashdot.org/comme... [slashdot.org]

Mod him up! Barbara Hunt is either a chill or troll (if there is any real difference)
Either edit ore delete this crap she wrote.

Re:Yes BarbaraHudson is an absolute idiot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47702115)

This explains TomHudson=Barbara, not Barbie=BarbaraHudson http://news.slashdot.org/comme... [slashdot.org] and how he/she operates trolling here on slashdot using multiple sockpuppets accounts (to mod herself up and her opponents down with), along with harassing and even impersonating others here in order to stalk them also with quotes of her stating her methods to do so.

"First time accepted submitter" my ass! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47700555)

BarbaraHudson=TomHudson=Barbara, not Barbie + more other sockpuppet accounts on /. is more like it.

WTF? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47700645)

44,000 patents? Did I read that right?
How many fucking patents do you need for a phone?

I guess in RIMs case thats about 2 patents per user.

Re:WTF? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47700863)

Since when did their userbase grow 10000%?

Blackberry Android Phone with Physical Keyboard (1)

BBF_BBF (812493) | about 1 month ago | (#47700819)

Please, please, please. Pretty please with a cherry on top?

All the android makers have abandoned the high end keyboard phone. It's a niche that needs filling. It's not going to reinvigorate the handset side of the company, but would help pay some bills with minimal investment.

Re:Blackberry Android Phone with Physical Keyboard (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47700851)

Uhm, BB10 is a superior OS to Android by virtually any metric (better battery use, lower processor requirements, lower memory overhead, faster, more secure, not-google-spyware etc), and given that it can run Android apps up to v4.2 (v4.3 this fall), it seems like the Q10 is ALREADY the phone that you're asking for...

-AC

Re:Blackberry Android Phone with Physical Keyboard (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47701273)

You delusional worm.

Re:Blackberry Android Phone with Physical Keyboard (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47705541)

BB10 may be a superior OS to Android but is it the messaging super OS that Blackberry 7 was?

I can't even tell a POP email account to leave the messages on the server. Also it is a data hog. And how my users long for a home button.

That said I'm going to buy a Q10 anyways.

BarbaraHudson (3785311) you are a troll (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47701369)

BarbaraHudson (3785311) you are a troll or you have a severe problem with understanding the original article.

PS! /., really? How low are you planning to sink?

Re:BarbaraHudson (3785311) you are a troll (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47702107)

This explains TomHudson=Barbara, not Barbie=BarbaraHudson http://news.slashdot.org/comme... [slashdot.org]

Re:BarbaraHudson (3785311) you are a troll (1)

ifdef (450739) | about 1 month ago | (#47702835)

Okay, you've made your point. There's no reason to keep repeating it. We understand that you can prove that the submitter is deceitful, etc., etc.

Now can we please get on to discussing content and ideas?

Re:BarbaraHudson (3785311) you are a troll (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47703151)

Why not? I'm glad he did. So are others http://news.slashdot.org/comme... [slashdot.org]

Article submitter's transparent (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47702387)

By putting down a competitor and yet stating she uses Android in her profile (furthering her personal agenda could have been done less obviously which obviously makes her a totally transparent idiot).

What's wrong with the commenting system here? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 1 month ago | (#47703285)

I don't understand the comments. Where did all the negativity go?

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